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Re: The Bridegroom delaying his coming [message #11481 is a reply to message #11479] Sun, 25 January 2015 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Mark L wrote on Sat, 24 January 2015 14:26

I wanted to respond to some of the things said here in response to what I said. One thing I have learned in my 40 yrs as an adult xian interested in end time stuff is not to get too dogmatic about it. God has his own agenda and timeline and while we have a broad outline we certainly don't have all the details. I never thought for eg we would get of the 70's before the rapture occurred.


So to me that shows that God is the one who will initiate any war, & thus needs not to` turn the clock back...` As Gary said -

Predestination, Providence, etc all things are set in motion, Why would the Lord need to change anything that He has foreordained from the beginning is what I am driving at.


I believe that God had predestined and ordained all things down to the tinniest detail. You simply don't see the Lord acting that way toward his creation though. As though everything was on a predetermined plan. This a really big subject and I want to set out some of my thoughts on it sometime soon.

For now let me say this. "If" God "as it were" turned the clock back then it was something he preordained from all eternity along with everything else. The same with the "bridegroom delaying his coming" Part of a preordained plan in eternity. We could have differing opinions on what that means but it is on the page and in context to end times. Matt 25/5

One of the ways God fulfills his will in this 4 dimensional universe is by prophetic utterance through the mouth of prophets and apostles. In other words he brings his purposes out of the spiritual realm into this one through those offices. I think that was the case here. God reaching into this world to turn events in the direction he wanted them to go. In this case holding back this war.






Mark,

Your right about all the opinions. We have over 2000 years of opinions on what is to take place. Then when it doesn't happen everyone rearranges their theology to fit their view.

When you think about the scriptures there are a lot of "gaps" on certain events and this may be in every area of Christianity.

One example is we see the disciples walking with Jesus when He was on the earth and then we see what took place after He ascended to heaven. What we don't see is what went on during their day to day lives and how they dealt with everyday common things. So I think every church to some degree tries to fill in the gaps and explain what we need to do today, or what the scriptures mean to say.

I think its better to take the information and see it for what it says and not add to it or take away. This is where a lot of churches end up with so many different doctrines, they try to fill in the gaps and add to what it says.

In the OT the Jews did the same thing. They filled in the gaps and ended up with their own traditional view that was actually opposed to what the Bible was trying to say. This is why they missed who Jesus really was because they followed what they thought the OT said.

Churches can fall into the same snare in many areas even in all this end time stuff by adding what they think will happen, or what they think we need to do.

I think its much harder to be Spirit led and let God do it His way, because humanity always wants it our way.

I hope all this makes sense, just trying to share what I think has gone on and what will go on in the future. In other words its easy to miss what the Bible is saying because we try to make world events fit any given scenario we find in the Bible.

I'm only stating this, while agreeing with what you shared. I believe God is in total control and everything will happen according to His Will and what will take place. I also think there is still somethings hidden that will be revealed the closer we get to the end of time. This is predicted in Daniel and will come to pass.

On the world scene it sure looks like things are being set in motion for what is to take place. I think that once everything falls into place it will go quite rapidly.



Gary






 
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