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Re: Gleanings from the "Gospels" [message #11874 is a reply to message #11865]

Mon, 23 November 2015 17:28

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Is this because Matthew followed Joseph's lineage and Luke followed Mary's?

That is what I've always thought. If Jesus is the natural born son of Joseph then it is impossible for him to be the messiah.

Jerimiah 22/22-30

Joseph descended through the line of David/Jeconiah. For Jesus to be his natural born son he would not be qualified for the Kingship.

Matthew really wrote his gospel with the Jews in mind. He gives the lineage of Joseph showing the problem then presents the answer. ie the virgin birth through Mary.

Also without going into a lot of detail it is obvious in Lukes account because of the way the greek is constructed that it is not Joseph he is descended from but Mary.
In the greek the definite article is used in front of every name except Joseph. This was jewish procedure to trace a womens line.

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