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Thu, 05 November 2015 03:15

william
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When the disciples of Jesus turned back away from His teaching, He asked the twelve will you leave me as well, and Peter stated; where would we go, You have the words of eternal life. They chose to stay while the others chose to leave. Can we then say as Calvin; they left because God ordained them to eternal damnation?

I think it is the last statement that makes people squeamish.

The Bible gives us a lot of evidence that it is God who chooses the elect but the converse of that statement is unpalatable to most Christians. Listen to how it sounds: "God chooses those who are to be damned by not choosing/electing them for eternal life."

Blessings,
William

I want to believe!

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