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Sun, 18 October 2015 15:13

Gary
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james wrote on Sun, 18 October 2015 08:41

Sorry Gary, I guess I shouldn't have posted that since I wasn't willing to share the context of the conversation. The writer of that which I quoted wasn't speaking at all about doctrine of scripture as revealed by The Holy Spirit but rather 'pet doctrines' of various groups of believers(also known as denominations) that try to constantly push their 'doctrines' onto others, insisting that they alone 'have the truth'...Sound familiar?

He was gently rebuking someone and encouraging at the same time to not just 'talk' but 'do', by the example of our lives. Strong faith comes by not just reading The Bible but by living out what we're taught....that's the whole context of the admonition to be doers of The Word and not hearers only. It's a deception to believe that just by reading and hearing we're obeying The Lord; He tells us to apply it, live it, share it....and how we do that will be the example others will see...Christ like actions and life or empty words without godly actions.

Hi James,

Your okay, don't feel like you have to apologize for things you post. Were only chatting here because we all love the Lord.

As for being doers of the word and not hearers, There's an old song by Keith Green, that goes, "you love My Word, but your avoiding Me". Just throwing out thoughts here thinking about what you wrote, I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I see what you were trying to say though. I think for the most part people (humanity) have good intentions. Once someone is saved there is so much zeal that a person wants to do anything to please the Lord. You know throw away the tennis shoes, logo shirts, and guns, etc.

If they would of told us, we all need to jump off a cliff we would of ran out and jumped. LOL Why? because we were so excited to find hope of a future and that God was there for us and we wanted to please Him for what He did.

All things work together for our good, including our past failures. If God be for us who can be against us.

I was thinking though, that the devil and the world are trying to silence Christians, and then those in the system (the liberal part of the system), are trying to silence Christians because were the only thing standing in their way. Its the Spirit in us that is preventing total chaos in this world. When He, the Spirit of God is removed it will be a terrible time here.

The world is trying to make it look like they love all people and are here to protect their rights no matter what sin they choose to live in. Just because a Christian says that certain sins are against the Bible, the world is making it look like were uncaring or unloving towards others.

The point is God is the one who made the rules not us. In the garden it was just a simple do not eat of that one tree over there.

The fact is that as believers we are not under any law, were free in Christ. For example, smoking Cuban cigars, drinking in moderation, is not a sin, but it some situations it may not be expedient. My Mother would go ballistic on that concept but it was how she was taught. I thought that way one time also, but now I'm trying to see what the Bible does say and are we perceiving it correctly. They (my mom and aunts), tried to say one time that Jesus did not change the water into wine but it was grape juice. I "thought" everybody at the wedding must of been pretty wiped out, not to know the difference. Not trying to start a wine tasting club here but making a point about pet peeve doctrines.

If we're walking in the Spirit we will be striving for the things of the Spirit not of the things of the flesh.

I guess its easy to fall into the trap as we all know, of making pet doctrines that we feel if we obey these rules we can float along, and think were pleasing God. Maybe its the flesh wanting some easy route.

I don't have all the answers but I have been trying to see what Jesus said, and make sense of it all.

Guess what, I noticed Jesus when He ministered to large crowds would always set down to minister, while they were left standing. I don't know if that doctrine (teaching) would be received too well these days but hey, its something to think about. Let's get all the deacons together and let them know the new plans, Very Happy

Gary

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