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Re: Gleanings from the "Gospels" [message #11766 is a reply to message #11764] Tue, 22 September 2015 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Marilyn Crow wrote on Mon, 21 September 2015 20:36

Hi Gary,

Hope I can be a bit clearer. I believe that what the Lord said to Israel, are many truths for us, however some things He said were specifically for them. eg. `the meek shall inherit the earth,` whereas the Body of Christ is told that our inheritance is in the third heaven with Christ on His own throne. (Rev. 3: 21)

Now regarding the Lord`s prayer, we know the it is a wondrous truth to be able to say, `Our Father who art in heaven,` & `hallowed be thy name.` What great truths to dwell on, learn of & really practice in our daily living `reverence of the Father. And really unless Christ came as heaven`s messenger to tell us & teach us of the Father we really would not know what it is like in the heavenly realms.

Then we read, `Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.` Israel knew that God`s kingdom rule would come on the earth through them. However as Jesus told them they needed to do the commandments from their hearts & not just lip service like the Pharisees. They were to pray to the Father for His rule to come.

Remember the disciples thought that they would overthrown the Romans & bring in the kingdom rule. And again they asked the Lord just before He ascended, `Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom (rule) to Israel?` (Acts 1: 6)

So we can see that although we can pray those words, they really are specific to Israel to ask the Father for His rule to come through Israel then over the earth.

For the Body of Christ there are specific prayers that the Apostle Paul (by Christ`s Holy Spirit) has written for the Body of Christ. Can you find them?

Marilyn.




Hi Marilyn,

Obviously you cannot point out every single detail concerning every single thing in a verse.

My point is that Jesus gave this prayer to His disciples, (us) as an example to pray. This prayer is found in the beatitudes and is spoken to all who follow the Lord.

Right now I'm spending my time mainly in the Gospels and may look into Paul's prayers at a later date.

The problem I see in the body is that men try to add things to what Jesus said while He was on the earth. When Jesus makes a point concerning anything men will add to it to make it say what they want it to say.

I believe every word written in the Gospels are for us today as believers. Sure they can apply to others in their situation but Jesus is speaking to His sheep who hear His voice. While many claim to hear Him by their actions they do not really hear and believe what He said.

The man who builds his house on the rock (Jesus) and obeys His words is the man whose house will stand when the storms of life come.

Now men over the centuries had added to the words of Jesus, in fact they have added so many things that now we see they obey the things they have added and explain away what Jesus said, while following their own traditions and sayings. This is basically what the Talmud ended up doing, taking the collection of Jewish law and tradition consisting of the Mishnah and the Gemara and this became the guiding light for all Jews.

I recently heard a Rabbi who spent the better part of an hour explaining away their Bible. From the creation on he tried to explain in scientific terms what really happened.

Are we any different today? I read about a local church in our area who professes to be Christian, in the picture above the article there was maybe eight to ten local buddhist monks teaching them the way of peace. The article went on to say that this church had an open mind and of course it was implied they accepted everything that came down the pike.

Jesus tells us that strait is the gate and few there be who find it, not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom. We know from scripture that the deception is going to be so bad at the end of time that if it were possible even the very elect of God would be deceived.

So this is why its so important to cling to every word that Jesus spoke in the Gospels, for us, for today. Adding nothing nor taking away what He has told us.

Gary





 
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