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Re: Gleanings from the "Gospels" [message #11668 is a reply to message #11665] Wed, 15 July 2015 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Marilyn Crow wrote on Tue, 14 July 2015 03:10

Hi Gary,

Yes I agree people do like to twist & distort God`s word to their ideas & desires. That`s why it is good to share & discuss with you fellas here as you are serious about respecting God`s word. We may not always agree, but we are trying to understand each other & God`s word.

Now about that scripture -

`So Jesus answered & said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith & do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, "Be removed & be cast into the sea," then it will be done.` (Matt. 21: 21)

Trevor & I have been discussing it. So here is what we think - Obviously God is not telling us to rearrange His earth - put a mountain in the sea or over there etc.

Let`s look at the word `mountain` & then the context of what Jesus is talking about.

mountain - Gk word `oros` - meaning to rise or rear, akin to `airo` -meaning to lift, ....make to doubt, take away.

So we see that Jesus is talking to the disciples to have faith in what God has promised their nation & not to doubt. He then gives a pictorial illustration of `taking doubt away.`

Marilyn.












Hi Marilyn,

I highlighted the one quote because I think Jesus is talking to all of us and not just to the nation of Israel,

Have been considering further what you have said here. If we take this approach your using are we use this same word in other passages, for instance: Jesus went up on a mountain to pray or is it Jesus went up to take doubt away and then prayed?

Every other scripture where this word for mountain is used would have to be interpreted the same way.

I think we can take Jesus at His word for what it says, He is talking about a literal mountain and to all of His disciples throughout time, meaning even to this present time.

`So Jesus answered & said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith & do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, "Be removed & be cast into the sea," then it will be done.` (Matt. 21: 21)

Jesus is telling us you will not only do what was done to this fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain.

He is clearly telling us that its not only what we see done with this tree but also includes this mountain.

Can you see this? He is using the fig tree as a lesson that nothing is impossible to those who would have faith and most importantly they do not doubt. The emphasis is on having faith in God and not doubting that what He is saying is possible.

If this was not the case why would the Lord even mention concerning the mountain?

Mark 9:23
Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”

"All" things does not mean "some" things, but it is only to those who can believe. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.

I honestly don't think taking Jesus at His Word could mean anything but what He Himself tells us.


Gary




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