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Re: New Order of Beings [message #10650 is a reply to message #10648]

Thu, 12 December 2013 22:54

sparkles
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Registered: March 2008

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You may not realise it but that is part of reconciliation -

`He has committed to us the word of reconciliation..` (2 Cor. 5: 19)

`when we are slandered, we try to conciliate;..`(1 Cor.4 13 NAV)
The verse before says: …being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it.
Matthew 5:44 “But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;”
Luke 6:27-29 “But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.”
Luke 23:34 “Then said Jesus, Father forgive them; for they know not what they do.”
Romans 12:14 “Bless them which persecute you; bless and curse not.”
Colossians 3:12-13 “Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels(heart) of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, if any man have a quarrel(complaint) against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do you.”

` first be reconciled to your brother..`(Matt. 5: 24) To me this means you go to your brother and say I am sorry, is there something I did to offend you. Not to demand an apology.

The message of Jesus is forgiveness, not demanding our rights. With the verses I quoted there is: we bless, we suffer the wrong, we love, we do good, we pray, we go the extra mile, we show mercy, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering, and forbearance.
When Stephen was being stoned he didn’t demand his rights or for judgment to be called down, but rather said Father forgive them.
Same with Jesus. Now don’t you think that same mind should be in us? If you feel you have been wronged then forgive and let God deal with the offending party. I don’t see reconciliation as demanding an apology from someone. Now in saying that, if I am wrong the Lord will show me.

As regards the `Yes or No,` answer. You said -

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`To me this is a “Yes or No” answer..`

How would you answer `Yes or No,` to `Do you still kick your cat?` it`s a trick question just like Jman`s about this so called new doctrine that I was supposed to unveil. But because there was no new doctrine how could I say `Yes or No.` Jman needed to ask me to explain what I was meaning, but he just jumped in & assumed wrong things & led a charge that has caused great difficulty for all.
I don’t see that, but if that is how you perceive it then that is how it will stand.

Why I have specifically asked Jman for an apology is because that is the place that William said (& we all know it) is where we all meet, at the foot of the cross. It is the place of healing for all. where we get rid of our baggage.
That is correct, you get rid of your baggage and you let God take care of the other person. Because if you have forgiven them for the wrong or perceived wrong, then it won’t bother you, but rather you will count it all joy for the Lord taking your baggage.

Unless I am wrong in this then have you a new doctrine that I should know about?
Not a new doctrine, but a new concept to some. Death to self, therefore not taking offense when someone says something. Or demanding what we consider our rights.

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