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Re: Testimony of Discipling [message #10459 is a reply to message #10458]

Mon, 02 December 2013 10:30

Gary
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When the Apostle Paul was speaking to Timothy & saying that women were `to remain quiet,` he was speaking of the formal meeting of that time, the Jewish synagogue. It was there that the men & women sat on different sides of the building & many women were apt to call out to their husbands on the other side.
Now just reading that scripture we could think, women must remain silent in our meetings.

Hi Marilyn,

I just wanted to share that the women in our meetings did have a voice. They prophesied, functioned in all the gifts, shared testimonies, and we had some who were gifted singers.

In fact I have not been in a church in America where any women were silent.

1 Timothy 2:12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

In our meetings the five fold ministry gift of Teacher means something different then the average church out there. Most think this is a person who comes in and teaches the Bible like a school teacher would teach Math or English in school.

Someone who may have the "gift" of Teaching like in Ephesians 4:11, has a special anointing from God to expound the scriptures and has revelation and understanding that does not come from the human mind. Its a gift that only God can give.

Anyone can quote scriptures and teach in a human capacity but without this "gift" they do not have a deeper understanding of the Word of God. I'm sharing this so you will understand what we mean when we speak of this office.

I mentioned this discussion (women teaching men)on Andrews board to my wife the other day (remember it got kind of heated), some of the gals tried to tear into Andrew a minister of God over this subject. Anyway my wife agrees with this scripture that women should not have authority over men nor should they teach men.

Here on a public forum everyone has liberty to share their thoughts and in your situation your telling us what the Lord showed your Grandpa 30 years ago. It has been interesting and I would like to see the whole picture of what he thought on the end times.

But concerning women teaching or having authority over men, I believe like the Bible says that the woman was first deceived, (Eve), and this implies to me that women can be easily deceived because of the way they are made, influenced by their emotions.

To be subject to male authority is the way the Lord designed things and why would women consider this as wrong? We are all told to be slaves and servants so I would think a woman would accept what the scriptures say on this subject. You cannot find any reference in the NT where women were going around functioning in the five fold ministry, except some are mentioned as prophetesses but they were not teaching and none of their prophecies are even recorded. The Apostles wives are never mentioned traveling with them out ministering, nor at home teaching all the other disciples. Not like we see today in these end times.

The scriptures say women ministered to Jesus but this does not mean they were giving Him scriptures or teaching Him. Its ministering in a different capacity.

That's just my thoughts on this here discussion and is only a partial view without expounding on this whole subject, I cannot speak for everyone here.

Gary

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