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Re: Bulletin Board [message #8191 is a reply to message #4564]

Tue, 06 September 2011 23:49

wishing34
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Registered: March 2009

Senior Member

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To make the assumption that there would be no spiritual ramifications just because

the Antichrist and false prophet hasn't been exposed yet seems foolish, in my opinion. Not

with the clear warning set forth in Revelation about 'the mark ' that is described so much

like what you're speaking of, no way!

Hi,
thanks for responding.

James, your response is why I thought it might be interesting.

Does not your response indicate a person could be lost for all
eternity for an innocent act? a deed, a work

Do you think it possible that Christians who
innocently take a bank tatoo on their arm - with no awareness of
any spiritual meaning - could be lost for eternity? - if later on
that tatoo is used by the antichrist monitary system?

That their salvation faith, covenant relationship is negated by an
action, a work ( taking a bank tatoo ) ?

The believer's security in Christ is much stronger than that.

It would be different if a person renounces Christ and worships the beast.

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I would go even further:

Say hypothetically in the trib a Christian is konked on the head
and the false prophet and antichrist personally give him the mark of the
beast while he is unconscious.

So he has the real mark of the beast.

He also still has his salvation faith and covenant relationship
with God. - because he did not renounce Christ nor worship the
beast.

So which prevails?

His covenant relationship in Christ (ie he is still saved)
or the mark on his arm ( a deed, a work).

I say he is still saved because he is still in covenant with God.

The meaty issue here is can salvation be lost by works.

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In anticipation . . .

Works are only an indicator of a man's heart.

Hence in I john 1
no one who is born again 'practices' (Greek - repeated or ongoing action) sin
because their born again heart will not allow them to practice sin

works do not earn nor destroy righteous standing before
God - only the imputed righteousness of Jesus matters.

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a person in the covenant of His blood is the righteousness of God
in God's sight.
<< even if he misses it and sins. But if he has a lifestyle of practicing
sin then that indicates he does not have a born again heart >>>

a person outside the covenant could do any good work - even give body to be burned -
and it profits him absolutely nothing as far as having right standing before God

Jman

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