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Sun, 05 February 2017 13:12

Gary
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Mark L wrote on Sat, 04 February 2017 11:11

james wrote on Sat, 21 January 2017 12:02

[ . . .but any chance of making any moral changes in this nation (apart from revival) would have been nil with Hilary at the helm.

Thats for sure.

Having watched Trump for the last couple of weeks I have to agree with President Obama. The man is not fit to be president. Are these just the first stumbling steps of a man who knows only a little about politics? Time will tell. He doesn't seem to know the meaning of diplomacy. Getting angry at the Aussie PM and hanging up on him??? Firing rhetorical missiles at Iran. Completely mismanaging the entire refugee file. A wall with Mexico?

I have to agree with Martin Luther. He said he would prefer to see a wise Turk. (heathen) rather than a foolish christian

I'm not saying for eg Iran may need to be dwelt with more strongly or the entire refugee issue needs a good look at. I am saying he doesn't seem to understand what diplomacy means. He's like a bull in a china shop. (to coin a phrase)

The other side to this of course as Gary pointed out is that the left has gone completely unhinged. Totally left all reason behind.

Saw a video last night (which I wish I hadn't watched) of a protest at Berkeley.Reporter interviewing a female trump supporter. She said she was in favor of peaceful protest by both camps. As she was turning away an anti-trump type stepped up and sprayed her with mace. There's the left these days just completely unhinged.

As far as refugees and immigration is concerned . . . I think there needs to be a careful look at what is going on. My opinion from a "christian" perspective or at least this christians perspective is that there needs to be far more compassion. Especially towards refugees. God said through the prophets in several places in the OT that Israel was to be compassionate toward refugees because they were refugees from Egypt. I just think as christians the starting pace for us should be compassion. Something that seems sadly lacking out there.

I'm in the middle of moving house and all my references are packed or I would dig up the refugee references.

When I look at America right now all I see is mass confusion in the gov't. Regardless of what side someone is on all this from both sides can't be good for the country. Let alone the rest of the world.

The problem I see is that the man (Trump) has only been in office a few weeks, and everything he does is being scrutinized by the liberal media, while they fuel the masses so they can have some attention drawing news story.

If the media has nothing to report about, the ratings go down and people become bored with the mundane news. Let some terrorist bomb a cafe and you have millions of people spending endless hours watching the same report over and over again. The media has to continue to generate some juicy story to keep the crowds watching.

Concerning refugees, everyone in the West is seen to be scrambling to find homes for the endless amount of refugees that the Arab countries continue to generate.

Has anyone in the world ask the question, Where is the wealthy Arab nations why are they not helping their Arab brothers? The Saudis just spent billions of dollars building a water world theme park so they can have a place to enjoy their wealth and to get away for their vacations.

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Al-Shallal Theme Park is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. The park is often referred to as "Fakieh Poultry Farms", which is the name of the owners of the park. In 2001, Fakieh Poultry Farms ranked as the 34th largest company in Saudi Arabia with over $480 million in assets and over 6000 employees.

What about the United Emirates:

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The UAE's oil reserves are the seventh-largest in the world while its natural gas reserves are the world's seventeenth-largest. Sheikh Zayed, ruler of Abu Dhabi and the first President of the UAE, oversaw the development of the Emirates and steered oil revenues into healthcare, education and infrastructure. The UAE's economy is the most diversified in the Gulf Cooperation Council, with its most populous city of Dubai is an important global city and an international aviation hub. Nevertheless, the country remains principally reliant on its export of petroleum and natural gas.

The UAE is criticised for its human rights record, including the specific interpretations of Sharia used in its legal system. The UAE's rising international profile has led some analysts to identify it as a regional and middle power.

Huge amounts of wealth in this country, Why no concern about reaching out to their Arab Brothers? The world makes no mention of these and other Arab nations helping out.

Like someone said: Their is plenty of room to have land set aside in these areas (Arab Nations) to build housing projects, which would generate jobs and give people a better future.

Our small community of 90000 people was planning on having 10 thousand refugees to come to this area and live. The problem I see is that there is hundreds of homeless running the streets now living in the cold with no hope for any future. The city is trying to feed, clothe, and provide shelter but it is being stretched to the limits. I saw a man sleeping yesterday, setting on the street corner with his stolen shopping cart and it was 17 degrees out. The man had to be miserable.

The question is where would we put 10000 more homeless and who is going to feed and help them find jobs and homes. Is the government suppose to bail everyone out in life? Our Government is presently 20 trillion dollars in debt, and that number is only increasing. Google the "National Debt Clock" if you want to see the total amount were in debt as a nation.

Secondly, I see no one mentioning, Why is not Russia or China helping take in refugees? Russia seems to be the main country helping to generate refugees. Why are not any of the nations concerned about them helping with the problem?

It's very easy for the world to point the finger at America and always blame us or the Government for any major problems that exist in the world. Everyone seems to "forget", that we are helping hundreds of other nations around the world with food, medical supplies, and helping them build a better future at this present time.

I don't think we should use scriptures to condemn people for giving to the poor or not giving to the poor. This is something that should be done from the heart. America is not a Christian nation by any means, it has a lot of Christians in the country who are doing the best they can. We have more missionaries going around the world and spreading the gospel and feeding people, giving medical help then any other nation in the world.

We are one of the last few nations on the earth that support Gods chosen people Israel. In spite of the worlds opinion of Israel.

This country is not the police man of the world that is suppose to solve every bodies problems in the world in spite of what the media is telling the world, or what people think we should do.

The greater problem is that society is wanting a global world with no borders that would lead to a one world government. When a country or nation makes a decision that does not go along with some liberal world view point then it makes waves. We have a large number of educated liberals that want a global community.

Lastly, Why is everyone in the world trying to force their opinions on America? The reason is everyone wants a global government with every nation living in prosperity. The problem is many nations of the world want to follow their false gods and live the way they want to live. They reject Jesus Christ and while we as a Nation are very wicked we do allow its people to preach Jesus Christ and follow His teachings. At least for this period in time its allowed, this may change down the road.

Trump is being judged by the world and media for making some of the decisions he is making only time will tell the effect of these decisions.

What should be the Christian response:

Romans 13
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. ...

As you can see Mark, our God has appointed this man and we in this nation must submit to the governing authorities. This may be the time line when He (Jesus) will give us one more revival before His soon return. This is what were praying for.

I would not put much confidence in Obama and the Sodomites he hangs around with.

Gary

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