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 Topic: New Testament Theology
The Consummation of all things and the Eternal State [message #13472 is a reply to message #13198] Mon, 25 May 2020 18:33
Mark L  is currently offline Mark L
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The Consummation of all things and the Eternal State

After Armageddon and before the mill there is a 75 day period
Dan. 12/9-13
1260 day trib
vs 11 1290 days extra 30 days
vs 12 1335 days extra 45 days
From the middle of the trib to the very end of the trib is 3 1/2 yrs 42 mon 1260 days. To the 1290 and 1335 is 75 days. The 75 day period is not explained but some suggestions are
-the judgment of the nations
- our judgment and reward
- typographical changes in the earth Rom. 8
The fact is we aren't told everything but the 75 days are necessary. These three things have to happen and it takes time to do these things. Another thing that has to happen is the great white throne judgment. Rev. 20/ 14

The Destiny of the Wicked

- a place of eternal darkness Matt. 8/12, 25/30
- eternal death Matt. 25/41
- eternal punishment and destruction 2Thess. 1/9 Matt. 25/46
- The place of unquenchable fire Gehenna Mark 9/43f
- The lake of fire Rev. 20/14, 19/20
- a place of torment Rev. 14/9-11, with fire and brimstone
- a furnace of fire Matt. 13/42
- the second death Rev. 20/6, 14, 21/8
- abiding under the wrath of God John 3/36, Rev. 14. 10, 2/5
- It is an eternal unchangeable state. Luke 16, Rv. 22/10-12, Matt. 25/41, 46,
2Thess. 1/9, Matt9/48, Rev. 14/11, 20/10

Some believe that this place is a place of remorse where they burn with lust and desire for ever and ever. Their punishment is that they thirst for their own sins and can't have them.
Both heaven and hell are literal Matt. 25/46, Luke 16

Annihilationism
Seventh Day Adventists for eg. Sinners are annihilated at death or at judgment are cast into the lake of fire and burned up. Or cast into the lake of fire and tormented until some later date and then annihilated.

Restorationism
Ultimate reconciliation. The fire of hell will correct them and they will ultimately be reconciled to God. The devil and the demons as well. Or else God's love was a failure at the cross.


New heavens and New Earth [message #13473 is a reply to message #13198] Mon, 25 May 2020 18:51
Mark L  is currently offline Mark L
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New heavens and New Earth

This is mentioned in 4 different places in the bible
Is. 65/17
Is. 66/22
2Peter 3/10-13
Rev. 21/1
A new heaven and a new earth to be created by God. There is no scripture to suggest that New Jerusalem will float just above the earth. Rev. 21/3 Jesus will be dwelling in new J and we will be with him. 2Peter 3/13 There will be a new earth. The eternal abode of the saints will be in new Jerusalem on the earth.
Forum: Coffee Break
 Topic: Bulletin Board
Re: Bulletin Board [message #13471 is a reply to message #13357] Mon, 25 May 2020 17:06
james  is currently offline james
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I recently joined Facebook and after a season of figuring things out a bit the things that I see as positive are more than I'd expected( family groups sharing the history of the family to young family members with stories and pictures) Reconnecting with old friends and schoolmates, etc.
The negative that I find myself surprised by is the political bickering by professing Christians. Right vs left, Trump vs Biden, Republicans vs Democrats ...hours and hours of arguments between the same folks about the same things. Corona virus is a hoax, a conspiracy, caused by Chinese, caused by Nancy Pelosi, caused by Donald Trump, wear a mask vs ain't nobody making me wear no masks...

So with a grieving heart I posted some scripture and suggested Christians pray instead of say ( James 1:19 & II Peter 2:10) and bless their hearts some of the most vocal people that consistently do this click on the "👍" like button, in hardy agreement.
Well if my ivory tower wasn't glass I'd call them out.....😇
Praying is better than saying many times.


“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
Re: Bulletin Board [message #13474 is a reply to message #13471] Mon, 25 May 2020 19:31
william  is currently offline william
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<red-faced> I confess, I clicked the like button!


I want to believe!
Re: Bulletin Board [message #13475 is a reply to message #13474] Mon, 25 May 2020 19:44
james  is currently offline james
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Oh yeah? Well now Mr. Eaton...😂😂😂

We both know that doesn't apply to you...or any of us "overcomers" 🤭

Toby insists he hit you last....hilarious


“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
Re: Bulletin Board [message #13476 is a reply to message #13475] Mon, 25 May 2020 20:18
william  is currently offline william
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There's a new sheriff in town.

index.php?t=getfile&id=287&private=0


I want to believe!
Re: Bulletin Board [message #13477 is a reply to message #13476] Mon, 25 May 2020 20:26
james  is currently offline james
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That's funny, speaking of Barnie, Toby might be out of his allotted bullets, he came out firing but has gone silent. ( it takes a minute to dig those bullets out of them official officers shirt pockets)


“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”


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