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| Re: Dr. Freeman and Faith Assembly [message #14224 is a reply to message #14198] |
Sun, 06 July 2025 15:48 |
 Mark L
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The podcast made the point several times that Bro. Freeman's definition of God's triune nature was wrong. I'm not interested in refuting everything he said but I thought this one was important. I also gave up watching a while ago. I watched originally as I wanted some of the info that he had.
Gods Triunity
HEF"S teaching:
God is one Divine Spirit eternally manifested as Father Son and Holy Spirit
The pod casters definition is:
God is one in one or more senses
God is three in one or more senses
Which one is right? HEF"S definition is one you can clearly understand. It simple and to the point. Although obviously there is much much more to know and understand. The pod casters definition is to my mind more philosophical. One for the highfalutin theological types to debate and discuss. The bible wasn't written for them. It wasn't written apart from them either. It was written so we all could understand basic truth. Teachers that can explain difficult issues should be highly valued.
We're told on the podcast on this issue that Dr. Freeman was heavily influenced by William Branham's beliefs. His (HEF's) doctrine was unorthodox and very weird. He crossed paths with oneness doctrine and Jesus only doctrine. Meaning he picked up info there. He was influenced by Branham's United Pentescostal Church (oneness) background.
Well I think that is absolute unmitigated nonsense. Dr. Freemans doctrine on the trinity is simple easy to understand and perfectly orthodox. Meaning it lines up with mainstream Christian teaching everywhere.
A couple of comments from the internets;
The AI definition from google:
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity, or Triunity, defines God as one being existing in three co-equal, co-eternal persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. These three persons share the same divine nature or essence, yet are distinct in their relationships and roles within the Godhead
Walter Martins comment (Kingdom of the Cults):
No man can fully explain the Trinity, though in every age scholars have propounded theories and advanced hypotheses to explore this mysterious Biblical teaching. But despite the worthy efforts of these scholars, the Trinity is still largely incomprehensible to the mind of man.
Perhaps the chief reason for this is that the Trinity is a-logical, or beyond logic. It, therefore, cannot be made subject to human reason or logic. Because of this, opponents of the doctrine argue that the idea of the Trinity must be rejected as untenable. Such thinking, however, makes man's corrupted human reason the sole criterion for determining the truth of divine revelation
For myself personally I have three comments.
You can see all three personalities in one place in Acts 7/55-56
Another comment is I think the term "personality" much better describes God's nature rather than "person". Personality brings more of a spiritual corporeal intangible invisible aspect to it. Obviously that has limits as well but much less than person which to my mind brings more of a physical aspect to it.
Some years ago I was arguing with a theological type on Christian Forums about this. He thought person was a better word. I never convinced him but more importantly he
never convinced me.
My other comment is
Habakkuk 2/14. For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord's glory, as the waters cover the sea.
So there is a lot to know. We will for sure know a lot more. Although never all of it. What we have now is a very tiny bit. That is really reflected in our knowledge of this.
You can read
"Meanderings on Scripture by Mark
https://mlederman.substack.com/
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