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Hi Gary,

We have been looking at Daniel 7: 11 & 12.

`I kept looking until the beast was slain, & its body was destroyed & given to the burning fire. As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was taken away, but an extension of life was granted to them for an appointed period of time.`


Here we see the `terrifying beast,` has been dealt with by God but the other beasts – the lion, the bear, the leopard powers – are given an extension of life, into the Millennium.
Gary, you asked some interesting questions which may bring up some discussion, which is why I started it on its own thread.

Now you said –
Quote:

`I was thinking about the people who come out of tribulation & go into the Millennium.`


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`1 .Will these people have the mark of the beast?`


No these people going into the Millennium will not have the mark of the beast.

`If any one worships the beast & his image, & receives a mark on his forehead or upon his head,....he will be tormented with fire & brimstone ....& the smoke of their torment goes up forever & ever...` (Rev. 14: 9 – 11)

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`2. Who is left during the tribulation that would refuse the mark?`


There are a few different groups in the tribulation that don`t take the mark of the beast, & are still alive to go through into the Millennium.

a) Israel – those who flee to the mountains & are protected by God.

`when you see the abomination of desolation ....let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;....` (Matt. 24: 15 & 16) `And it will come about in that day that I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour out on the house of David & on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace & of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced...` (Zech. 12: 9 & 10)


b) Nations – those who look after the persecuted Jews.

`the time is coming to gather all nations & tongues. And they shall come & see My glory. And I will set a sign among them & will send survivors from them (Israel) to the nations;.......that have neither heard my fame nor seen My glory. And they (Israel) will declare My glory among the nations. Then they (nations) shall bring all your brethren (Jews - Israel) from all the nations....` (Isaiah 66: 18 – 20)

Just like in WW2 many people looked after the Jews & hid them or fed them or visited them in prison etc. And these people of the nations during the tribulation also looked after the Jews. They did it because it was the right thing to do, not because they had any understanding of God. Note, many people hideaway during the latter part of the tribulation when the mark is mandatory. They would have to feed off the land or have supplies put away in remote locations.

Also it would take awhile for the Anti-Christ & his army from around the world to police every person. Those who like their comforts would quickly give in while others who realise that they would become `slaves,` of the system, find ways to go to `ground.`

There is more in scripture but that is a start.



[Updated on: Sat, 16 November 2013 23:54]


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Re: The Millennium [message #10324 is a reply to message #10323 ] Sat, 16 November 2013 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi, Marilyn,

I just wanted to thank you for all of the time put in on this topic.

I work 6p to 6a. I am on your time schedule. So, At 1 am, it is 1 pm to me!

I know the time it takes to contribute. It is all very interesting. Smile


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: The Millennium [message #10326 is a reply to message #10324 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow Gillyann,

What service do you do for that time? Nursing? I have figured out that a lot of you are 5 hours behind me & the day before. So it is about 5.30 pm (Sunday) here up the river with the birds chortling, & will be about 11.30 pm (Saturday) for many of you.

Be blessed Gillyann, I enjoy & appreciate your input also. And to think that all of you have travelled this journey on the net for years. That really humbles me as I see other groups just in & out & not really doing the long haul in relationship. Plus having been from another part of the body of Christ it is interesting to hear from others who have travelled with the Lord & what they have leant.


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Re: The Millennium [message #10327 is a reply to message #10326 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I am an RN. We work long hours, but have a lot of time off.

Right now, it is 1:40 am where I live. I live in a small, Southern steamboat river town. It is on the Ohio River across from Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville is known for the Kentucky Derby, The Louisville Slugger Bat Factory, tobacco, and bourbon. Lol

OO is very unique. Most of us have Faith Assembly in common. I was blessed to sit directly under HEF for twelve years. They were some of the best years of my life, learning the Word and all.

Well, you are now a part of us. You will see all sides of us! Lol Some are pretty, some are not! Lol But, all in all, we are human and that is why He died. Right?

Again, so thankful to hear other views that are not error regarding the Atonement, the Trinity, etc. Smile

[Updated on: Thu, 21 November 2013 11:55]


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: The Millennium [message #10328 is a reply to message #10327 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Gillyann for some more of your story.

I lived in a river town not far from here, Echuca on the Murray River. But then I married, later in life, & we live in a farming community nearby. But I so love the river boats & river.

I quite understand the connection of those who have been in a fellowship for years under good Godly teaching. I was brought up under Godly teaching from those who came out of the Welsh revival. I still recall their wonderful accents, singing & especially their teachings, & prophecies on our precious Lord. One of my dear grandmothers kept many of the old prophecies & one day I will share some with you all. So I understand when you say that you are writing down a lot of the teachings.

How blessed we are to have connected with the past generations & are now to carry on the truths in this generation.

Do your paddle steamers still run? Tourists? Do you have children, Gillyann? I think you said grandmother somewhere. If so what are their ages?

Bless you sister.





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Re: The Millennium [message #10329 is a reply to message #10328 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am excited to hear the prophecies! I would like to see if they are in agreement with some of our old prophecies.

Yes, the steam boats are running. They have colliapies that you can hear being played. They have steam boat races at Derby time. They add a lot to the area. I live in a 153 year old house on the river. I love it! All of my antiques fit perfectly. God is so good to me!

I have two grown children. My daughter is married to a great guy and they have three children now. Their ages are 6, 4, and 1. They are the light of our lives. They call my husband Poppy. Both of my kids love Jesus and seek to go deeper. I am so grateful for their hunger. My daughter and son-in-law meet with young couples who want the meat of the word. My son is finishing his degree in business. We will see what God has for him. He is a good worker and has such a loving heart. He has a burden for the salvation of many.

They know a lot of young people who are being transported in the Spirit for ministry! This was prophesied at FA. It is happening with these kids! Many supernatural things are being shown to them. Some have the gift of discerning of spirits and see both sides of the veil on a daily bases for ministry. Exciting things are happening.

God is doing a quick work in these young people. Their hearts are so pure and hungry. It is so refreshing to see. Their first agenda is love with it being so pure and unconditional. Then God uses them for healing, deliverance, etc. The stories are incredible. I will share more in detail later.

They are being primed for greater works. Some have been raised from the dead. This is happening in America, right now! I think God has skipped over some. He has raised up a group with a fresh anointing. They walk in love, and faith follows. "Faith worketh by love."

I just don't want to be one that is skipped over! I am staying close to them and learning and seeing a lot. Simple things, really. But, powerful things that some don't choose to walk in anymore. I hope all of that made sense!

I have been blessed with a complete set of the teachings, including the radio programs. They are such a blessing! I also have a complete set of notes on all of them. I want to put them on OO. I got a special cabinet for the organization of the tapes. A tape copier came with it. It was all free!!! I only paid shipping. I copy many of them for people. I always have one in my car. I am transferring them to CD. He has blessed me so much with all of this through a sister who used to post here. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity, really. He chose me to be blessed with them!!! Thank you Jesus!!!

Better go now. Will talk again soon. Smile

[Updated on: Thu, 21 November 2013 11:58]


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: The Millennium [message #10330 is a reply to message #10329 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GWB,

It's funny how we know very little about each other but we have ties through what happened at FA and its many groups around the country.

My wife and I have collected antiques as well. Its sort of a hobby, but we have enjoyed it over the years. We use to refinish old furniture, but got out of that phase because of all the chemicals.

When we were going to Russia to live we sold quite a few items and at the time I was willing to sell it all as it had no meaning to me. But the minister we sat under told us to put stuff in a warehouse for when we returned. At the time it sounded strange because I was not planning on returning. The Lord ended up closing that door but at least I knew I had no affections for what God had given us.

We still enjoy antiquing when we have the time. Its a fun hobby. Glad to see you collect as well.

Marilyn asked me in another post if I liked fishing. Yes I enjoy this but I think there is only so much we can do while here on the earth. There is a million things I would enjoy looking into, for instance I am fascinated with Horology. If the Lord is willing this would be enjoyable when I retire, if we even have that kind of "time" left. But because life is short there is only so much that we can allow ourselves "time" to do.

Life itself is so wonderful I can only imagine how many things will happen in Heaven and it will go on forever. I think its good that everyone has different interests in life and that they can enjoy what God has given us while here on the earth.

Couldn't resist sharing this when I saw you had a house full of antiques. Very Happy

Sometimes I think many from our group have become reclusive only wanting to show a spiritual side and not be ourselves, and share what God has done. I guess that's part of life though. And with anything this all could be twisted and looked on with disdain. Only the Lord knows our hearts.

Lord Bless,
Gary





Re: The Millennium [message #10331 is a reply to message #10323 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also it would take awhile for the Anti-Christ & his army from around the world to police every person. Those who like their comforts would quickly give in while others who realise that they would become `slaves,` of the system, find ways to go to `ground.`



Marilyn,

My lands Sister you really start a lot of topics, I don't know if I can keep up with them all. LOLOL

I see what you mean in the quote above, but they are trying to make this possible. With all the technology you can monitor a lot of people quickly. They are increasing video surveillance and with all the smart phones they can track where a person is going 24/7. They now have cameras on the new tv's that I read an article where someone could tap into it with a computer and look into your house.

There have been books written in the past (fiction) showing the government watching everything that everyone in society is doing. George Orwell's, "1984", comes to mind, plus there are others. Men who are not even Christian saw this day coming when it could lead to this. Credit Cards, smartphones, video cameras, its all out there. Next time your in a store take a look at the ceiling and see if you can spot all the hidden cameras in those round black globes. At least we have all of this in America.

But I can see where many countries will not side in with the Antichrist it may be only those in the west but who knows for sure.

Also there will be many martyrs during this time as well. The 144000, Jews will go forth and minister salvation to many as well, who have missed the rapture.

Now I can tackle your list in the post here. All these people, you mentioned who protect the Jews, refuse the mark, seems like when they end up in the millennium that they would see the reality of God.

Why turn away from Him at the very end when satan is loosed from hell? Well I know we cannot know "why" for sure.

I think somethings concerning the very end of time can only be speculation. We are given a basic outline but cannot know all the details. Only the Lord knows everything that will take place. The exact groups of people allowed in may be some that we had not anticipated, Why? Because God in His mercy may allow those in who will be ruled with a "rod of iron".

The question is: Why rule with a "rod of iron", unless there are some there who have some type of rebellion. I can see the children born during this time not have understanding. But people who came off the former earth and are living in a time of plenty I would think would realize that the prospect of eternity is real.

Again I must stress somethings can only be speculation as there is no need to know every jot and tittle that will take place. I think back to my original thought and that is God has only given us a basic outline of future events.

Gary



Re: The Millennium [message #10334 is a reply to message #10331 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary,

I had to look up Horology. Laughing I love antique clocks, as well. Some of the things they come up with!

I used to have a necklace that was a portable sun dial!

Also, I know Gary and Margaret Hall. I know Terry and Brenda Grabow. Did you go to Russia with them? Sweet people!

Have a good day!

[Updated on: Sun, 17 November 2013 08:25]


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: The Millennium [message #10335 is a reply to message #10334 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GWB wrote on Sun, 17 November 2013 08:19

Gary,

I had to look up Horology. Laughing I love antique clocks, as well. Some of the things they come up with!

I used to have a necklace that was a portable sun dial!

Also, I know Gary and Margaret Hall. I know Terry and Brenda Grabow. Did you go to Russia with them? Sweet people!

Have a good day!


Hi Gillyann,

I tried to give some hints with the word "time". LOL I have seven or eight clocks that tick all the time I love to hear the sound of it.

I was wondering if anyone would freak out with the word "Horology", sounds occultish.

I did not know them, even though the names sound familiar, they may of went with another group.
Did they go with Rusty Tardo?
They made a number of trips over there, our group went twice. There was four different churches represented in our group.

I don't know if you have heard this brother preach (Rusty), down in Louisiana, but he has a real anointing on his ministry and he's a good brother. He has a real balance on the Word of the Lord. I think he has a web site with live sermons.

Lord Bless,
Gary






Re: The Millennium [message #10336 is a reply to message #10335 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary and Margaret went to the Glory Barn, I think. Brenda and Terry came along at the building.

Yes, I have heard of Rusty Tardo. He always had something good to share. I saw him on TV a few times. I am glad he is such a blessing to you all!

Some of us do tend to confine ourselves. However, I have some friends in town who sat under the teaching with Don and Agnes Mishler. They also got the tapes. We have all known each other since high school. We have all been able to support each other and be a positive support system since we have watched each other walk with Jesus for so long. There are no judgements or attitude. I think that is human nature and we all deal with it. Smile

I find it hard to really get to know people online. But, Jesus is good to help us, right?!

Good to get to know people better from all over the world.

It would be neat to go on a picnic with kangaroos and kewala sp? bears!!!


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: The Millennium [message #10338 is a reply to message #10336 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wanted to clarify that I wanted to put the notes from each teaching on OO and not the actual teaching itself.


The content of the tapes belong to HEF's family. Smile


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: The Millennium [message #10340 is a reply to message #10336 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gillyann,

Nice having a chat with you. And yes it is hard to get to know each other on line but I hope & pray over time & by God`s Spirit that we will be able to receive of God`s gifting through each other for the edifying & building up of the Body of Christ.

Like you we know other Christians in this area & beyond who we have travelled with for years, helping, encouraging & sharing. Now that God has opened up this greater aspect of His work (here at OO) they are all interested to hear what we discuss & how you are all going in the Lord too. it reminds me of Paul`s letter writing from one group to another & telling them each how the others are going. `Coming together all the more (by His Holy Spirit) as we see the day approaching.

Now is that your American, Kentucky accent - `kewala,` (Koala)
& what does `sp?` stand for?

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`It would be neat to go on a picnic with kangaroos and kewala sp? bears!!!`


We were in cabins up the river & each evening along the river frontage just in front, groups of kangaroos would bound along or stop & stare at us - big male ones, female & smaller, bounding along or stopping to nibble the grass. Such an Aussie scene.



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Re: The Millennium [message #10341 is a reply to message #10331 ] Sun, 17 November 2013 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gary,

I can hear you `puffing,` from here trying to catch up on all the threads.(lol) But really I`m just trying to keep the topics in their `boxes,` (I`m an organiser) but doesn`t mean we have to exhaust the subject now.

So true about `Big Brother.` And actually all the world does worship the Anti-Christ, except those individual people who turn to God. (Rev. 13: 8 & 16: 14)

So many martyrs, as you said. And the 144,000 Jews ministering the good news of the coming Davidic Kingdom with Christ the Jew`s Messiah ruling through Israel.

Now you had a very good question -

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`All these people, you mentioned who protect the Jews, refuse the mark, seems like when they end up in the millennium that they would see the reality of God.

Why turn away from Him at the very end when satan is loosed from hell?`



We need to remember that although Satan is bound during the 1,000 years man`s carnal nature is still with him. The self life is very strong & wants pre-eminence. Even though people learn of God`s ways (Micah 4) pride can still rise up. There will be many generations in the 1,000 years so many peoples will not have been `tested,` as to their allegiance - God or Satan, which is the final battle at the end. (Rev. 20: 7 - 10)










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Re: The Millennium [message #10344 is a reply to message #10341 ] Mon, 18 November 2013 08:26 Go to previous message
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Marilyn,

No, it is not my accent. I just can't spell sometimes! Laughing Laughing


Shalom,

GWB

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