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Re: Oneness Trinitarianism [message #10280 is a reply to message #10270 ] Sun, 10 November 2013 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael R  is currently offline Michael R
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You too, and thank you for your service. I've been deployed only once, to Qatar, which was a rather comfortable place to go. I've gotten to go twice to the Dominican Republic on humanitarian aid trips where we got to talk about Christ as well.

In the last two or three years at school I've made a few foreign friends. It's always exciting for me being among people of other languages. It's going to be like that around God's throne. I'm not even close to being fluent in Spanish, but I would like to be someday.

I grew up with singers from my parent's generation, like Keith Green, Twila Paris and the like. Very good lyricists. I've heard of Michael Card, but haven't been exposed to much of his music before, even though I hear he's in the same style of music as the others I've mentioned.

I know just enough to get myself into trouble when talking about Quantum mechanics (the science, not the mysticism by the same name.) I find it amazing that things exist only when observed. This is one of my brother's major arguments for the existence of God. There must be something observing the universe as a whole for the universe to exist. The tree that falls in the forest when no one is around makes a sound because God is actively watching it.

If God were to take his watchful eye off of something, it would return to an indeterminate or nonexistent state. This is actually what I am thinking of when a number has a denominator of zero, versus having a denominator of one. God's Spirit is actively observing or not observing a concept that exists in God's mind. The act of observation brings it into real substantial existence, whereas before it existed only as a thought that was contingent on the mind of the Father.
Re: Oneness Trinitarianism [message #10283 is a reply to message #10280 ] Mon, 11 November 2013 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary  is currently offline Gary
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Michael wrote: If God were to take his watchful eye off of something, it would return to an indeterminate or nonexistent state. This is actually what I am thinking of when a number has a denominator of zero, versus having a denominator of one. God's Spirit is actively observing or not observing a concept that exists in God's mind. The act of observation brings it into real substantial existence, whereas before it existed only as a thought that was contingent on the mind of the Father.


I read a book once where Einstein commented and said, Everything in life in reality is made up of atoms and is pure energy. Even though it is solid to us, like a "wood Table" it actually is atoms that have been shaped into that form.

I don't understand it all but can see where all of life that we know of could possibly be made like this. God can do anything far more then what we will ever understand. If He can take a pile of dirt and create a complex human being this shows us that nothing ever is impossible with Him. That's why He's God.

Hope that makes sense.

I wrote in another post about the world chess tournament. I don't know if you play this game but it is very mathematical. I haven't played in years but I still appreciate the game.

I could play fairly good when I was younger. I had a buddy that his younger brother always wanted me to play him. Brilliant kid but I would beat him every time in the game. Years later I was driving a tractor on a back country road, this kid pulls up (he was older then), and told me he had joined a chess club. He broke out a chess board and wanted me to play him one game on the hood of his car. I decided to play one game, but it did not take long as this kid was really good and beat me quickly.

I have a lot of Keith Green's music and some of Twila's as well. I have read Keith Green's testimony and he had a real heart for the Lord. Your parents must be Baby boomers like me, in the same age group. I think most of us on here are in that age group but could be wrong on that.

I think some have said music is mathematical in nature. Do you play a musical instrument?

I would try to use your Spanish as much as possible. I studied Hebrew for several years but found if you don't keep with it you can lose what you learn. They say Russian is a hard language to learn because there are six cases. You use words and talk one way to a man, and use different words when speaking to a woman, and then with children the words change slightly as well. The endings on the words change each time depending on who you are talking to. I do plan on learning Spanish I work sometimes around Mexican's and would love to speak to them in their native tongue.

Lord Bless your week,
Gary




Re: Oneness Trinitarianism [message #10286 is a reply to message #10283 ] Mon, 11 November 2013 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael R  is currently offline Michael R
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I used to play chess quite a bit when I was a kid. Then I finally won against everyone in my family and had no one else to play against. It's a shame, but I haven't played much in a long, long time.

I never had the perseverance to learn a musical instrument. Once when I was nine or ten I made a passing comment about making a lot of loud noise with a trumpet, and then, lo! and behold, I got one for Christmas. I wasn't exactly thrilled. After being required to practice for a while, and even trying occasionally during that time I eventually stopped. My dad had always wanted to be a professional trombonist, but for one reason or another did not achieve what he wanted. As a result his expectations were a bit higher than I could ever reach. That made it difficult, so I would often complete the required amount of practice during the time when he was at work. I wish I had found the ability to enjoy it then, because I might have actually stuck with it and learned it. I'm grateful for my dad for many other things, but this was a point of tension between us during my childhood. If I ever marry and have kids, I hope to grow in them a love for learning. I certainly did not have it. The difficulty is that you cannot simply command a child to enjoy something. Try to, and they will resent it and you, and this damage is hard to reverse. I will have to lead them by example and by encouragement, praising them for any effort they make while withholding criticism.
Re: Oneness Trinitarianism [message #10295 is a reply to message #10286 ] Wed, 13 November 2013 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary  is currently offline Gary
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Michael R,

Is there a body of believers in St. Louis? I did not know if there was a meeting there originally. We attended a church over in Brazil, Indiana, maybe a little over an hour from St. Louis.

At one time there was over ten meetings in our area all located at different towns with different ministers. Now there is only one small meeting that I know of. Everyone of them was in close driving range.

Any rate Just wondering.

Gary



Re: Oneness Trinitarianism [message #10300 is a reply to message #10295 ] Thu, 14 November 2013 12:15 Go to previous message
Michael R  is currently offline Michael R
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Yeah, there are numerous churches here. I attend Bethel church in Troy, Illinois, which is about 20 minutes outside of St Louis.
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