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| bible study blessing for all [message #6190] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 20:38  |
 David Coleman
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I had mentioned the name of a brother from a assembly in Virginia, to another brother. He said he knew him and he didn't tell me much or where the Assembly is but I knew that I knew a little more than before after telling him what I had found. the website is Dennis Schmidt bible papers.com This is a awesome inductive bible study from a Charismatic view. It is conservative and of the old Charismatic school. It is difficult that you are a Charismatic and then others bring reproach and shame to the work of God.Don't know which is easier to say I'm a old schooll Charismatic or change the name to another non-denominational one. All I know is that I'm a tongue talkin, Holy Spirit filled believer,who believes the bible cover to cover and loves God with all my heart mind and soul, and loves neighbor also. God is worthy to be praised 24/7 and he is the only reason for living. God bless in Jesus name.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6192 is a reply to message #6190] |
Mon, 09 November 2009 21:13  |
james
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I know what you're saying, brodav9. It seems if you tell someone you're charismatic, you spend the next few minutes giving a disclaimer or explaining how you're not part of the 'TBN, Todd Bentley, Apostolic Commission, laughing revival, Prophecy Seminars, and the like'.
I recently encountered a group of denominational young people(Baptist,Presbyterian, and Episcopalian) and while their eyes are blinded to so many truths(such as the Baptism of The Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues, divine healing, and the message of faith), they just assumed that I was a snake handling, falling out in the floor, gibberish talking person, based on the perception given by so many 'Charismatic Christians'.
I'm leaning towards just saying I'm a follower of Christ, more and more. Of course, at some point the oppertunity comes up to share my beliefs. Also I'm learning not to cast my pearls before swine...
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6197 is a reply to message #6192] |
Tue, 10 November 2009 23:29 |
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| james wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 16:13 |
I know what you're saying, brodav9. It seems if you tell someone you're charismatic, you spend the next few minutes giving a disclaimer or explaining how you're not part of the 'TBN, Todd Bentley, Apostolic Commission, laughing revival, Prophecy Seminars, and the like'.
I recently encountered a group of denominational young people(Baptist,Presbyterian, and Episcopalian) and while their eyes are blinded to so many truths(such as the Baptism of The Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues, divine healing, and the message of faith), they just assumed that I was a snake handling, falling out in the floor, gibberish talking person, based on the perception given by so many 'Charismatic Christians'.
I'm leaning towards just saying I'm a follower of Christ, more and more. Of course, at some point the oppertunity comes up to share my beliefs. Also I'm learning not to cast my pearls before swine...
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With all of the doctrines of demons flying around during these end-times, are you sure you shouldn't say "following YHWH." 
I poked my head out of the cave....   
It could make one real tired if you would let it! 
Blessings,
GWB
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6210 is a reply to message #6190] |
Thu, 12 November 2009 01:33 |
David Coleman
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I just had a Christian say there's not much on that site. He must have got the wrong site. Dennis covers almost every topic you can imagine of course it's from a Charismatic point of view. The only mistake I found so far is that when he refutes tree worship he says Jer.11 instead of Jer.10. I own most of his stuff by using the page download in the upper area of my main page toolbar.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6541 is a reply to message #6213] |
Tue, 29 December 2009 22:47 |
David Coleman
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This looked like a good place to put any bible study blessings for others. I was wonderfully blessed today by the word. The Lord revealed many things in the study but this is a part he wanted me to share. In Judges 6:1 It tells of how Samson is a lover of a harlot He does this often throughout the study of his charactor. a deeper look you will see (a bride)--( man of God )loving a harlot, (a harlot.) a Jezebel is a harlot. even if she is just a spiritual one. notice two things about Delilah. v. 4 He sleeps with her. This harlot, is one who likes reward better than the man. She will take money for seeing his capture and she will be reason that he is wrapped in cords. two days ago I was cutting down small trees, and was trapped in thick cords of vines I escaped and cut them down. I couldn't break them with my hands. The cords that Samson had them tie him with were probably like these. I twisted one and it was green inside. If they were dry they would have broken. In Ps.129:4 The Lord is righteous he has cut asunder the cords of the wicked. In Hosea 11:3-5 key in on v.4 to where it says I drew them with cords of a man with bands of love. When the harlot Jezebel comes to be a problem, her goal is to be rewarded by the devil through her witchcrafts. She desires to bind the work of God with her cords. Samson is playing with her by partaking with her and not being seperated. She knows what his shortcomings are by the demons in her that reveal these things. Her biggest witchcraft is to manipulate and control by revealing sins in people. She bands them with this as a accusser of the brethren. (Satans favorite position.) Here's the answer. back to Hosea 11:4 her bands are really the bands of God. In the sense that what she meant for evil God meant for good. The bands of God's love keep us from going on in the sins or weaknesses that we hang on to. If our adversary has ought against us we must get it under the blood and overcome. In Rev. 2:21-22 Here is a example of how God loves his enemies. Do we? God gave her space to repent. Hosea 11:5 shows that now God's bands of love were not heeded so he will let another stronger enemy come and as we see after the captivity was over from Asyria, God had his way. God's love draws to repent even by the means he uses. Jezebel is overcome.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6542 is a reply to message #6541] |
Wed, 30 December 2009 00:03 |
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Hey Dave,
Jezebel is still a problem today, the spirit of Jezebel is one of the most destructive forces coming against the church today. She has a stronghold over many churches and manipulates them as Satan wills.
Not to correct you, but Judges 6:1 is about Israel being oppressed by the Midianites and Gideon destroying the alter of Baal. Samson is over in chapter 16, I think you just forgot to put a one in front of the six.
( I might not have noticed that if I wasn't using the InstaVerse, thanks for telling us about that, it's very useful.) 
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6546 is a reply to message #6542] |
Thu, 31 December 2009 14:54 |
David Coleman
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thank you I forgot to put a 1, it should be Judges 16:. Sometimes the instverse won't read a scripture but that is rare. Glad if everyone takes advantage of this free gift. It made me happy that you got blessed. The anointing is upon me and I am being flooded with words. I was led to start writing. Many will make new years resolutions, but only by my Spirit can a heart and life be changed. unless one tuff out a thing and excercise their own self will. Perhaps try for awhile and be disappointed. The bottom line only God can forgive and cleanse sin or wrong doings. Ps.116:1-6-- concerning this passages, The people (David,) of the Lord feel God loves them because he hears their prayers and does the thing which they request. but if they would consider that they breathe the breath of life it is God who gives it. Does not a husband bring home flowers to bless his wife, how much more 1Cor.2:12 The Spirit is given you that you may know the things that are freely given to you. Is it enough that you love God and he loves you, than just looking for him to be a giver of things. For all things are yours-- in Christ Jesus. 1 Cor. 3:21-22. If my people, 2Chron. 7:14 wow when I looked at that 2 Chron.7 I got blessed. I am thankful for all God has done last year and am excited about next year. I don't need a holiday but I do need more of Jesus. Halleluia. I might add In the past, methinks all of us go through this, that when we prayed we thought God would answer like clicking instaverse --instant manifestation. but I praise God for the revelation concerning waiting time. If we have to wait that is called the time of crucifixtion and death. When God has done that perfect work --whatever it may be, including test for genuine faith. Then comes ressurection. Many times have I found that my joy is full, and other wonderful things happen at that time. The time when I hydroplaned down a hill that would have killed me and I shouted the name of Jesus, the ice and snow disapeared from under my vehicle, I didn't stop until the last moment before going off the hill. I had to wait till the last minute but God came through right on time. With that life saving time also came a vehicle still running without damage. No insurance going up. Got to go to work. eat a lunch that wasn't flattened and probably more could be said. I can truly say thank you Lord for last year but thank you for all the past years from my birth number one and number 2 birth in Christ Jesus. Alabanza Senior.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6547 is a reply to message #6546] |
Thu, 31 December 2009 15:36 |
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Hey Bro. I enjoy reading your posts
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It would be much easier if you would use paragrahs. Or do like I do and put an empty line every few sentences
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”
G.K. Chesterton
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6560 is a reply to message #6547] |
Wed, 06 January 2010 16:22 |
David Coleman
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Here is one of the pearls God gave upon waking Jan.3. Love is the key to the scriptures. I have started a study on the fruits of the Spirit prior to that experience. Prior to the study I had written a song by the leading of the Holy Spirit. It was on love God and your neighbor. Because of my prophetical gift, the songs I write are by the Spirit. Miraculous events occur after writing them.
I am very interested in the commandment to love God with all the heart,soul,mind, and love thy neighbor as thyself. So I see why he spoke that to me about love is key to the scriptures.
The Lord guided me in this study-- puffer fish---learning about them they are poisonous,few fish are. It is easy for them to get puffed up.
bellows--- two handled tool to blow air in fireplace to raise up the fire. bellows are also used in cuckoo clocks to cause the bird sound. in a accordian type camera,old models, they forced light out to allow the lens to move to the film plane for focusing. Some instruments have a bellows so to play music and persons not using their lungs.
you can see puffer fish on youtube.---- as I was in Ps.117 it only had two verses. The Lord dropped in my heart a question. This is basic stuff isn't it? He wanted to be glorified and showed me something. There is more there than you see. If a person reads that Psalm in the mind it is wonderful if it excites you to agree with it and begin praising the Lord. But the Spirit has more intention and there is a tremendous amount of learning than the flesh eye can see.
In Rom. 15:11 is the same Quote, Paul is referring to the Gentiles and laud him all ye people. We find in the statement there that though this is being said, a marvelous statement, we cannot exclude the rest of Rom. 15:
15:1-3 each verse has the word please. That word is twin partner with edify. please means aresko--excite emotion, that's neat, edify--oikodome, to build up, also neat. note in v.2 the word neighbor, here it is a brethren. love thy neighbor. the great commandment.
then in v.4-5 The scriptures when used for endurance and comfort, bring hope. that is my interpret of 4-5.
v.13 shows a description of what hope does for those people. Much joy. Though this is lengthy I hope you are bearing with me. Wisdom is on the way. To sum it up. The context of Rom.15 reveals that the Gentiles and people who praise the Lord are those who find hope. That hope is Jesus Christ. The word is the means of revealing that hope. To do this is a gift from God. How to do it is by the Spirit. What to do is by exciting their emotion and building them up,first of all the body, then others.
3 scriptures--- 1. 1Cor.13:4 shortened-- love is not puffed up,but suffers long and is kindness. 2. 1Cor.8:1 knowledge puffs up,but charity-love--edifies. 3.1Cor.4:6 my interpret 2nd half of verse, do not put any other person on a higher elevation because that would be puffing them up above another person. Namely because each individual is precious in the site of God.
we are called (myself) to elevate Jesus and give him all the glory and praise. Also by love to bring hope to others I heard it said " when the head gets puffed up let it leak out with tears. I've been travailing and crying alot lately. I am writing by the Spirit, first to myself and hope that I am blessing someone else. I am learning more about this fruit of the Spirit, it is awesome, I love my God,amen. May I be filled with his holiness. I'm a halleluia, shoutin victory Christian. I am complete in Jesus. I overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of my confession. My confession is not what I did but what he has done and completed for me.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6561 is a reply to message #6560] |
Thu, 07 January 2010 01:00 |
james
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| brodav9 wrote on Wed, 06 January 2010 10:22 |
As I was in Ps.117 it only had two verses. The Lord dropped in my heart a question. This is basic stuff isn't it? He wanted to be glorified and showed me something. There is more there than you see. If a person reads that Psalm in the mind it is wonderful if it excites you to agree with it and begin praising the Lord. But the Spirit has more intention and there is a tremendous amount of learning than the flesh eye can see.
Though this is lengthy I hope you are bearing with me. Wisdom is on the way. To sum it up. The context of Rom.15 reveals that the Gentiles and people who praise the Lord are those who find hope. That hope is Jesus Christ. The word is the means of revealing that hope. To do this is a gift from God. How to do it is by the Spirit. What to do is by exciting their emotion and building them up,first of all the body, then others.
I am writing by the Spirit, first to myself and hope that I am blessing someone else. I am learning more about this fruit of the Spirit, it is awesome, I love my God,amen.
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Thanks for sharing that with us brother; and as you were saying about The Lord asking you about it being 'basic stuff' and wanting to reveal more? I think that's the way He teaches us many times. First because sometimes we aren't ready for any deeper revelation, and need to grow from milk to meat. And also I think that's the profoundness of His Living Word, as we delve into it, searching for instruction, wisdom, and to know Him better, He gives us a greater understanding of just how awesome He is.
And as to the 'hope' The Word reveals to those who believe, think about this, that same Word which brings the message of salvation, joy, understanding, hope, peace, maturity; that same Word will be used to judge those who refused to receive it.
I used to hear pastors say, when delivering a message from The Lord, that before they preached or taught on it, The Holy Spirit had had to work it in them first. I've found that when The Lord does give me something to share, it almost always applies to me as well. example: when sharing scriptures or Biblical principles to edify or encourage others, it always accomplishes that in me. That is something that I find very humbling...especially knowing what a marred piece of clay He's using. But thanks be unto God that He can and does take a marred piece of clay and remake it into a vessel that seemeth good unto Him. PTL. Jeremiah 18:4
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6564 is a reply to message #6560] |
Thu, 07 January 2010 23:11 |
David Coleman
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I was led to share this today, The Lord wants to share his glory in the puffer fish. He had revealed that the low state of the puffer fish was that when he is puffed up he is dangerous due to the fact that he is poisonous. It is no mistake that he is created for the water. Spiritually speaking, he drinks of the water of the word, but that knowledge can puff him up.
At the same time the puffer fish who drinks of the water of God's word is a spiritual picture of him being filled up with the fullness of God. That is the design of God.
I find that the wonderful word of God when handled properly without abuse is designed to be a blessing to those who love it and a punishment to those who abuse it.
in 2Th.2:8-17 We see all the text around the verse 11 that God will send strong delusion on all those who love not the truth. They are the poison of the puffer and are puffed up with the knowledge which isn't the truth. example once saved always saved but not have to live holy lives. and doing false signs etc.
Eph. 3:19 a. shows us to know the love of Christ. b. which passes knowledge c. that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. read Eph. 4:13 see there unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. The fish is in the water and that water is the fulness. (Christ) but now the water gets into him and he is puffed and that is the fulness in him.
God uses the base and foolish things to confound the wise prudent and reveals them to babes. one thought-- the knowledge of the word will either puff us up or it will bring us into God's fulness.
the other pearl which was the dream from God I had Jan. 1st was I was standing in a room with many fishing poles standing. the pole I was using when casting the hook it went up over my head and around my body and the hook caught the line behind me. it was connected lower back area I couldn't reach it. also I struggled. A man who was tall and strong came behind me grabbed me from behind lifted me in the air so as to release the pull and undo the hook from the line it was attached to.
The next day----same day I received the Canada fishing clip, God gave me the interpretation.-- When I go fishing in the water of God's word, And get tangled up by mistakes misunderstandings those things, because of searching for truth and deeper things, which are desired to feed me and others, the Holy Spirit will catch my back, and help me to see I am tangled and mistaken, and get me out of the difficulty. This was for me personally but was asked to share to bless others. I would desire that all the saints have the same heart, to be hungry for deeper things without having only a minister on a Sunday or meeting in the week to feed them. we are fed by the Lord every day. every day, every day. God bless, God speed.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6593 is a reply to message #6566] |
Sat, 09 January 2010 13:36 |
David Coleman
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I am so glad when I hear someone gets blessed. They are seeing Jesus in me. This is from the 3rd pearl that the Lord showed me. Zech.12:1-3 v.1 as it is written in Col.1:16 all is created by him and for him. When he says form spirit of man we see the idea of potter and clay at it's beginning.
I had been in the study of Mal. 2:14-15 and there was seen in the context of that passage, God could have given Adam 5 wives if he wanted to. He only gave one because it showed a type of Christ and the church. He has not given us a Hagar We must not be treacherous to our wives.The pearl was in the morning waking. I was told, can I not make many more angels? Why he showed me that was because I was in a Col.1: study about how Jesus is exalted above the angels. It was also revealed that Lucipher brought that deception of worship angels because he wants to be a boaster and exalt himself by saying I am higher than Christ. God can create anything to help us.
v.2 a future siege is planned against Israel. All nations shall come against her. Iran is wanting to build nuclear against Israel. China has hacked into U.S. secret inteligence. China and Russia- Gog and Magog, The nations of the North and surrounding, to come against her.
I didn't tell the 3 pearls because they were to be given in the Lord's timing.
so we know that America is also declining as a nation, world powers-- Babylon are joining together. They are upset, Obama won't agree for the Euro dollar yet. The great Harlot is all false religions who will be joined to Babylon. The woman in Rev.12 is the church. She is the 5 virgins who didn't have oil in her lamps. She will be prepared through the protection in the caves. But go through sorrow also. The denominations are the Harlot, they have a remnant in them who God will save. They are being called out. The foolish virgins are not filled with the Spirit though they have it.
12:3 I was in the Spirit, when the Lord let me know now is the time. I should go and set up my mother in laws stone benches. I cleaned the stone legs and brought them to her garden. cleaned the platform and set the stone legs up. the very heavy stone seats in order to get under them I put a rusty pot it crunched a little but was okay. under one stone was a female rattlesnake under ground. the rattle was seen. she gave birth to a baby which I stepped on. I must carry these stones as a burden. place them on the legs. I completed the job and was victorious.
Now I was to know the interpretation. 12:3 Jerome says --it was a custom in Palestine to test the strength of youths by their lifting a massive stone. the phrase, burden themselves relates to the custom. Matt.21:44 read this passage about the stones. The Jews fell on this stone and were broken. the stone shall fall on antiChrist and nations who burden themselves with it, The jews have gone through it now nations will. remember Hitler? I try to pray peace of Jerusalem every day.
Dan.2:35 tells us the nations who have progressed through the ages, symbolized by the image will be ground to powder by this stone which shall cover the whole earth. note in I Pet.2:5 the body is made up of living stones. They are in the whole earth. Jesus the stone who is the head is in all of them.
Ps.68:13-18 v.13 the pot was in a low place almost crushed but when the stone was removed because of restoration the pot was placed on the table. the serpent was under the other stone because she shall be totaly destroyed for coming against Israel. All that is birthed of her will have no effect on Israel but instead Jesus will set up his Millenial kingdom. The picture will be she will be like a dove that is ascending and she will look like silver and gold on her wings. Jerusalem when the sun shines on her looks like shining gold and silver. there will be dove--peace for God's people. comfort in knowing that after we see these disturbing things we will know what is on the horizon. Our Jesus.
We are more than conquerors. We are not in the pots we are seated with Jesus in the heavenlies. We overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. Ps.68:11 when we put self in death we are alive by the Spirit to do this publishing of the word. 2Tim. 1:8 we are in this trap and prisoners for Christ so we can publish his word for others. That's why he placed me here. May you find comfort in these things love to.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6598 is a reply to message #6593] |
Sat, 09 January 2010 15:32 |
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Bro. Dave said:
"v.2 a future siege is planned against Israel. All nations shall come against her. Iran is wanting to build nuclear against Israel. China has hacked into U.S. secret intelligence. China and Russia- Gog and Magog, The nations of the North and surrounding, to come against her."
I have been hearing about a war prophesied in Psalms 83 that is suppose to be separate from the war of Ezk. 38-39 (Gog and Magog.)
"For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation: that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance ." Psalms 83:2-4.
This does sound like what Iran is declaring right now. They want "Israel to be wiped off of the map."
Any comments about these two wars?
Bro. Dave said:
"The great Harlot is all false religions who will be joined to Babylon. The woman in Rev.12 is the church. She is the 5 virgins who didn't have oil in her lamps. She will be prepared through the protection in the caves. But go through sorrow also. The denominations are the Harlot, they have a remnant in them who God will save. They are being called out. The foolish virgins are not filled with the Spirit though they have it.
I don't understand your view of the church within this statement. On the Rev. Outline, posted in the NT. Theo. section, it states that Babylon is the world. Rev. Outline, Tape #7, Section I, A, 11, e.
I know that the church has been lulled to sleep by embracing paganism in a lot of ways, but that does not make them the world; rejecting Jesus. Would you clarify this for me?
Now this will make you happy! It says in Rev. that. Overcomers can eat of manna, white stone, new name. Rev. Outline, Tape#2, Section I, E, #4. I just thought I would throw that into the mix with your talking about stones in scripture.
Blessings,
GWB
“Be still and know that I am God.”
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6603 is a reply to message #6598] |
Sun, 10 January 2010 01:36 |
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glad to clarify for you. The nations or world are the Babylon. There are 2 woman spiritually speaking. As a allegory I use Hosea. God had him marry a harlot. she was a type for Israel to see. The sence there is that Israel played the harlot and had other lovers. It was a prophets way of showing Israel left their God to love another, they loved other gods. Inside of Babylon on it's highest scale is a false religious system. That is the harlot. She is mystical because she is united as one even though she is made up of many beliefs. she by the way loves Babylon because she loves the world and it's darkness. she speaks well of those who are of the world. Therefore she will partake of it's soon coming judgements. When I use the word joined I really mean a part of. There are going to be many who join the harlot when antiChrist comes because he is a religious figure who says he is the long awaited Messiah.
the woman in the Rev.12 is the church. they call her the mother. she will bring forth a manchild. If we said I am a overcomer and we were overcoming we would be the manchild. the woman in order to be the church, yet brought to safety for awhile, to be prepared is evidence of a certain standard of righteousness but not enough to go up with the overcomers. If we are called to come out of her-- the dead system, they don't measure up to any standard of righteousness. Many think because they say they have faith, when it is tested it will show there is a lack of oil in their lamps. Only God can unharden their hearts. He has to cause them to lose the love of this world and perhaps the things in it.
Thanks for all your kindnesses. The Lord has been revealing to me a week ago the concepts of maintenance of our life. FA gave us a tremendous foundation. The Lord reveals that they brought us to about half way to our Christian walk. We have a good stretch to cover yet. But by God's grace he will send forth his hidden ones when the church embraces the first half.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6623 is a reply to message #6603] |
Mon, 11 January 2010 05:38 |
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Bro. Dave said:
"glad to clarify for you."
Thanks for your clarification. Your explanation did help me see some things more clearly. As someone stated previously, Revelation is very hard to grasp at times. I love studying Revelation myself.
Bro. Dave said:
"FA gave us a tremendous foundation. The Lord reveals that they brought us to about half way to our Christian walk. We have a good stretch to cover yet. But by God's grace he will send forth his hidden ones when the church embraces the first half."
I agree. I believe the first half of the movement at FA was an awesome boot camp for all of us. While we were there, we had a well of water that overflowed on a continuous basis. All we had to do was take our cup and dip it into the well and drink, drink, drink. It is not like that now.
The second phase is taking place now. We are finding out what stuck and what we need to tune up in our walk. We are now being given the opportunity of walking in everything we were taught without the well we had four times a week. I am learning how to embrace many things we were taught all over again. In me, I believe a quick work is being accomplished, compared to the process I experienced at FA.
Where I live, some are choosing to embrace the FA message again instead of picking and choosing or are choosing to pick themselves up after being discouraged for so many years.
At OO, I see some who have remained tried and true to the message. Others are in different places and are working many things out in regard to what we have been taught.
Most importantly, I feel we are all learning to allow these differences in each other without being judgmental or condemning towards our brothers and sisters. I don't take this work being here done lightly. How we needed to be more humble at FA and allow each other to grow at their own pace with all the knowledge we were given. We were given a crash course of years of seminary study from Dr. Freeman.
Bro. Dave, your puffer fish example was very good. FA had both kinds. We are now figuring out the differences in ourselves.
And, yes, more love and compassion was needed as well. That was then, this is now. We are learning love and compassion in the second half as well. Without love, we are a clanging symbol of useless knowledge. The two must go hand in hand.
A few have chosen to walk away and reject everything, and for those, we continue to pray and believe.
I think things are racing at break neck speed, in regard to events transpiring in prophecy and what we were told was going to happen.
This site is a valuable means to accomplish what He would want to do in us in the second phase. It is a place to come and allow body ministry to operate in all of us; building each other up in the Word.
That is my take on it. I am sure there is so much more others could say about all of this. I hope this encouraged some of you.
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Shalom,
GWB
"Be still and know that I am God."
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6633 is a reply to message #6623] |
Tue, 12 January 2010 00:47 |
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Thanks sister, GWB we have the same mind. This evening before reading your blessing Sun. Jan. 10th you wrote about a harmony between bro. and sis. ironing out their differences. The word of the Lord came to me tonight and so I write. If my people will love their neighbor, and their brethren and be humble I will hear their prayers to drive out the h1n1 flu. Matt. 18:19. This has been done before in answer to prayer by a united people. This is about covenant. may his love begin even now in Jesus name. your servant bro David. thank you all. All that I write may his love be my motive and grace to you all at all times.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6652 is a reply to message #6593] |
Thu, 14 January 2010 21:52 |
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The Lord brings me back in the Spirit to the table in my mother in laws table. Amazing that she is my in law. He unfolded another revelation to me.
Now I was to see the stones that I carried the same but different. there were 3 seats I replaced. I had carried them and they were burdensom. As in the other revelation. Each now would have a name. one was civil law, one was ceremonial law. One was moral law. They were so heavy to carry,as my mother in law said. She said she didn't believe I carried them alone. That's how heavy they were. The pot was a broken cistern now. It had no bottom and could hold no water. The snake was gone.
The interpretation-- We cannot carry or keep the ten commandments or the law. They were written on stone. The snake represents poison and death. Ps.68:13 The pots are a low place where they lien. Under the burden of weight.
Then I saw 20 feet from the table the rose bush. When this cold weather came all of this week, I covered the bush with a sheet. In the Spirit I saw not a sheet but a vail.
The law was a vail over the eyes of Israel so they could not see what Jesus was saying. That was Paul's rose bush. The thorn in the flesh. The sheet was held to this bush by many thorns. Paul wanted God to drive out those enemies, Joshua 23:13, 2Cor.12:9 The messenger of Satan was buffeting him by accusing him all the time that he was not obeying the law. He was a Pharisee of the Pharisees in the past, he was faced with the law at extremme obedience. Jesus tells him my grace is sufficient for thee. look at all the scriptures in 2 Cor. saying sufficientcy of grace. He wanted Paul to learn and lean on grace and not the law. So he didn't say he would remove it Paul's way.
The law is a thorn in the flesh, seems there is a connection to the thorns on Jesus head on the cross. like the law --thorns nailed to the cross. Col. the handwriting of ordinances that was against us is nailed to his tree. Jesus fulfilled the law for us.
I praise God that Jesus delivered me from the keeping of the whole Mosaic law. Gal.3:10 says if we are under any part of the law we are under it's curse of death. I have been free from the law for many years. The burden is that even tithing is the law. If we keep the whole law all 3 parts we will be okay. but if we break any part being we are under it we are walking in death. That means you are not under grace.
The reason for this message from the Lord is that many ministers are not under grace. Even some from assemblies like FA who have sat under it's message are still under the ten commandments and tithing. 4 times in 2 Cor.chap.3 shows us clearly these things. Paul told Peter if you are under the law you have no part with me. Ask Jesus to give you a revelation like Peter got when he saw the great white sheet lowered with beasts saying kill and eat Acts 10:10-19 even read the whole chapter. let us all be free in Jesus grace, amen.
next time the third visit to the table.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6709 is a reply to message #6652] |
Sat, 23 January 2010 14:05 |
David Coleman
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In the above post, I was excited about what the Lord was showing me, it was strong meat but I didn't think, about that I just wanted to love the brethren thinking they would be excited with me and also see the genuine experience instead of just reading words.
I found that people are more interested in reading and getting knowledge instead of experience. I used to be that way when I would go to assemble with the body. I loved the Lord, but I would hear messages, some I would apply to my life, some I put on the shelf.
Sometimes we develope the habit of only hearing what pleases us, or feeds our outer man. I learned only when the Holy Spirit dealt with me about that.
Jesus was always rubbing the rulers of the temple (scribes,) the wrong way. They had Theology and doctrine and a supreme knowledge of the law. Jesus was telling them all of the law is of no value, He was considered a blasphemer, He was telling them that the temple was so unvaluable that he will destroy it and rebuild it in 3 days. You have to laugh (I'm not being legalistic here, you don't have to laugh) you have to laugh when you see their reaction thinking he is literally saying he will build the temple in 3 days. We accept without question what Jesus said because we have the rest of the story.
But what if one of us says I'm going to rebuild the temple in 3 days, remember I am only using that about the temple as a example. Please don't read just part of that and say Dave said he is going to rebuild the temple.
If people read the bible they will be convicted of the things about themselves when the bible touches on a sensitive area. You never will see them throw the bible in the garbage. They will posibly change or they will just go on in their ways. We can become callous in our minds if we don't obey the bible, darkness will fill every place that their is no light.
Here is a experience, I use no names. A brother very prominent in the assembly was very close to me. I loved that brother. we were inner circle friends. We served the Lord together. I was on my way to church one Sunday, and saw a big white Cadillac and it had big horns, Texas style on it. I said to myself that looks like boss hogs car. When I got to the Assembly and walked past the brother he said laughing, hay boss hogs. I had a check in my spirit.
Because I love that brother I just prayed for him, I didn't lose my love for him we continued to serve the Lord together. You see he is God's sheep and belongs to the Lord. David the king of Israel still loved Saul, even though he tried to kill him. He would not touch the Lord's anointed. Saul's response was David you are a better man than I am.
The Lord had me look up scriptures dealing with divisions this morning. They are Rom.16:17, 1Cor.1:10, 1Cor.3:3, 1 Cor.11:18. They bless me because they are the opposite of what God is teaching me about love. I hate division, but I love the understanding of what God is showing me about love.
He has been revealing to me many thingsa about the body of Christ. They are things I never was taught. One for example is that as we are drawing near to the end, where Jesus could appear at any moment, we must be watchful because the teaching we do have is that, floods are going to come after the manchild. before it is born. If it is that close to the coming of the Lord we can see that something will be trying to devour us. To abort the coming forth just as it is about to be birthed.
That is why we must be watchful for divisions, that is the working within the church. Gal. 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. We must be like watchmen on the walls (that is a spiritual thing, not climb up on literal walls,) Fighting the good fight of faith not one another. We must keep the enemy out and edify and build up each other. Love is not a word but a deed, it is what knits the body together. Majority of churches we know about do not even know what a body of Christ is. Matt.18:19.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6711 is a reply to message #6709] |
Sat, 23 January 2010 18:46 |
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analogy of the pufferfish--- do we react like pufferfish when something disturbs us. Do we then let off the poison of a pufferfish. Are those who are helping us become like thorns in our sides(enemies). When the minister brings forth a message that has our name and address on it. Do we treat it as though it were some sort of divination. (Not that that hasn't been done) or do we see it as the Holy Spirit speaking to our hearts to deliver us.
Are we like Jonah called to minister but are like pufferfish and let off our poison. Both God and the devil know why Jonah left his station. God sent a bigger fish than a pufferfish to get Jonah back,
Because we are called to be a royal priesthood, we are to send up a sweet smelling aroma of Christ to the Father. Even the sacrifices of righteousness. Jer.33:11 sacrifice of praise. Isa.61:3 praise delivers from all heaviness. praise delivers from that which disturbs us.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6792 is a reply to message #6711] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 17:01 |
David Coleman
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This is going to be a difficult thing for people to handle, but it is important to obey God. All of God's people are going to have to come to a place where they must decide on the basis of where they seek out their own salvation with fear and trembling.
When we have the privilege to come and sit under a endtime word there are two things to be considered. one-- that the word shall be confirmed to us by the Spirit, or we cannot apply it by faith to our own lives. two-- The minister may not have a revelation or heard from God concerning what he is preaching or doing.
That by experience has one way or another been in our lives. we may not have light.
make this bold statement not to condemn, but make clear whether it is agreed upon or not this is what God has shown and this is a conviction that comes from God to hear. It is not based on love or anything else. The word here is given in love or kept to oneself. God requires us to be Bereans. We must seek God and we answer to him. If you disagree that is your privilege, but there will be no argument because, we are not to debate but be peacemakers.
Only the Holy Spirit can show some things that's where deception comes in. The devil takes hold of what is called grey areas. It is easy to discern black and white. In this last hour he will delve into grey areas. We need the Spirit's guidance. Just because someone has been blocked from the truth of a thing, if they are mistaken God will give forgiving grace. If they are rebellious they don't care to pray and seek God.
This will be the revelation here---. 1 Kings 8: There were many priests but we know that not every priest went in behind the veil. Saul had many of them slain when they were on David's side. But in the temple sacrifices were offered up and the smoke was so heavy you couldn't see. As you read you will note that there is a congregation of people seated and priests were in two places. Some behind the veil and some seated with the congregation.
when the room was full of smoke God's presence came, some call it shekinah glory. That's not what it's called in the Heb. When the priests in the veil came out the other priests were supposed to stand and join them. They couldn't see so they couldn't stand, but that meant they couldn't stand up to go and join the others. not that they were suppressed by the power of the presence.
The presence of God is not any thing other than a peace. If you know his presence you will know peace. We are in the presence and peace of God everyday when we are in his will. There was no falling under the power, it was just that they couldn't stand to perform duties as priests. They really could stand if they thought they wouldn't step on anybody. They would be better sitting then. The congregation was sitting and had no reason to stand.
As said, anyone can make a mistake, preachers are no exception. I declare unto you that the laying on of hands is the same as a scapegoat. When they laid hands on the scapegoat they sent him away with there point of contact being they laid hands on it first. It committed no sins, just like the lambs for offering, they committed no sins but were a symbol of a carrying away. The bread and the cup are also symbols, but not the true blood and body which Catholics believe are.
So on the basis of scripture alone, we have evidence for the fact that there is no basis for anyone at any time falling under the power. This is saying no one for any reason not even call to ministry. It is false but here is what is revealed. It is a corruption of what God is really doing. Personally this man has been slain by the Spirit. The results are now the fruit of the cross. The death of the self life is to be slaying by the Spirit. Now the Lord says in the word stand fast in the faith. You must be slain put to death. Then you can stand and live the resurrection life of the Holy Spirit.
May we all not mock important truth by accident, God can forgive a repentant heart. God loves his people. may the Lord bring us to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, and he be formed in us. What is falling under the power used for in the false churches today??? It is a visible form of deception to draw people in a church for numbers of people to be there. It is a beguiling of unstable souls.
The writer has seen many instances of people getting hurt, this was before the movement started getting headway. In one church a lady was dancing and fell under the power she fell banged her head and a stretcher was brought in to carry her out. In 1990 Dec. BH, apologised for the JDS heresy. At that time he was laying hands on people to slay them under the power. How does a heretic manifest great power??? He acknowledged he was a heretic. What power was he using????
God has given the fruit of the Spirit to reveal to others Jesus in us, also righteous living. One brother known long ago was having visions at church after slaying in the church, the next day he was slapping his wife silly, her confession and his saying yes I did that. God will do great things but they will change a life for the better. He gave up Israel in the wilderness, except for those age 20 and under. Even Moses didn't go to Canaan. There is no respect of persons with God. We must get it right, God bless.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6801 is a reply to message #6792] |
Wed, 17 February 2010 15:04 |
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To make something important here. What you are about to learn are some guidelines. You must be prayerful if you are going to respond to this message. Not all agree with our liberty. We feel free to do things that others may not agree.
So if you are free by the Holy Spirit and able to do this, then that is your liberty. So what is being related to you is you are not required to do the action which is presented to you unless the Holy Spirit allows you to . It will require a maturity, and stability, and discernment. To enter into a secret place.
It is important to say these things because we don't want to offend anyone with what is called our liberty. The thing that is presented is not required of you. If you are free you will see something that may have a little question about it.
Listen carefully to the next words. You are not sent to hear this message except for the reason of loving your President. Also to pray for him. the other things you hear must be discerned but not easy discarded. Hear is where the message is. youtube.com You will hear a message that will change your life forever. That is really Obama speaking.
the small video is -- Obama's message for one world government. may God's grace be with you and please pray for more time to allow God's people to be ready. God bless. as always don't look around at just any youtube video, only that which is clean for your spirit.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6802 is a reply to message #6801] |
Wed, 17 February 2010 15:42 |
Mark L
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youtube.com
Thats only a link to youtube. We need a proper link Bro.
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”
G.K. Chesterton
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6803 is a reply to message #6802] |
Wed, 17 February 2010 18:09 |
David Coleman
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Here is the way to find the youtube video.
go to google---type in youtube.com----scroll and see broadcast yourself. click it.----in the youtube search bar type Barrack Obama one world govenment. may add that he also mentions one world religious system in the video message. didn't find any links but made sure this precedure worked and it takes you right there. God bless, this video is a year old.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6810 is a reply to message #6801] |
Fri, 19 February 2010 16:49 |
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| brodav9 wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 09:04 |
you must be prayerful if you are going to respond to this message... It will require a maturity, and stability, and discernment. To enter into a secret place.
You will hear a message that will change your life forever.
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I first saw this video about a year ago, and while it was interesting and enlightening, I don't and didn't find anything about it life changing. Am I missing something, I try to be prayerful and thoughtful with most responses I make, especially when someone is saying that God is giving instructions through them. But I don't grasp the 'secret place' in regards to this. Does that mean I don't have the required maturity, stability, and discernment? Does everyone else understand and are just not commenting, or are you guys as confused as me?
I fully agree that we should pray for our president, no matter who he is, or whether or not we agree with his political positions. But we know that these things are coming upon the world in the last days...one world government, mark of the beast, false prophets and teachers, mass immorality, and much more. It shouldn't strike fear in our hearts,it should draw us into a closer relationship with God and increase our faith, knowing that all these things were prophesied thousands of years ago and are just the fulfillment of God's plan.
Maybe that's the 'secret place' that's referred to, as in Ps. 91. "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty." That's definitely where I want to be........at all times, dwelling...and abiding.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6811 is a reply to message #6810] |
Fri, 19 February 2010 17:39 |
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I don't think we will ever see a NA union. Or a south east asia union etc. For various reasons.
I have to say I don't pay a lot of attention to the xian world talking about stuff like this as a general rule. One world gov is going to happen obviously. I try to keep up but don't really follow it.
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6814 is a reply to message #6813] |
Sat, 20 February 2010 00:21 |
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appreciate others to express their opinions, whether right or wrong. It is not possible to tell everything like you can when talking to a person face to face.
Today while talking to two men about Jesus, we had a hour to talk about everything till we were finished.
The motive for showing this video is not to tell anything new, to those who do know. Perhaps there are a large number of people who read forums would like to know. Being there was a anointing on it can we question the Holy Spirit??
Perhaps if we question the Holy Spirit maybe we are not ready.
The disciples said well who then can be saved. Matt.19:25
It is wonderful for a Christian to make a bold confession of his salvation. Matt.10:22 was also written to Christians. If we can say by the grace of God I will make it. We are to pray Lord that I may be accounted worthy to escape the things that are coming on the earth.
Why would we have to pray that? If we are sure of our going to make it. It is with deep humility that to say I'm going to make it because knowing that without God's absolute help we won't. A example of this is the woman of Rev.12: She is brought into the place of protection. If she doesn't go there she will not make it.
She will be led by God to this place. She can stand out there in the flood and proclaim nothing can hurt me I got faith all she wants.
The bottom line, you can search the scriptures, we must be filled with all the fulness of God if we will be ready. We must confess with our faith that Jesus is the auther and finisher of our faith. But he must be the auther and finisher. We are not the auther and finisher.
One more thing we are required to make sure we are cleansed by the blood. We have been delivered from the eternal security unbalanced message. Jesus is coming back for a church without spot wrinkle or blemish.
It is with great desire that all will see that much more has been given us and so much more is required. On our side we should be standing in faith. Here is a question. Do we just confess we have God's full armour on?? Or do we think that the armour just acts upon it's own accord. Eph.6
So far we are praying in tongues everyday. We are fighting battles with the enemy to help others out of the kingdom of darkness. We are casting out devils ,healing the sick, manifesting the gifts of the Spirit, etc. every day. We are interceding and getting results everyday. We are even doing exploits. every day.
The bottom line is we can't do it. We cannot have a tarrying life where we say that is not yet. We will wait on the Holy Spirit forever till he says you have buryed your talent in the ground, so Jesus will give it to another who is using what they have.
If you are one of the most fortunate ones, who are ready to meet Jesus right now you have my utmost and sincere commendations. One thing for sure if your not interested in what is going on around you ,you will have nothing to pray or be concerned about. But then at least pray that those who are by the multitude around you may make it for you have tremendous faith.
When the government comes to your door and you say what do you want, they will say don't you know?? They will say didn't you hear the news last night that you are required to do such and such. You will say I wasn't interested and besides don't have a TV. They will say you are required to take the mark of the beast. Maybe you might say Lord I'm surprised I was supposed to hear your voice every day.
It will be easy for the devil to put in your mind that this is bolony and that the brother is off coarse.
So let me be clear, the statements in this message top to bottom are not written for any person in particular. Some of the things said are to challenge thinking, they do not apply neccessarily to your situation. I think that if we don't have anger we are overcomers. If that stirs in you good. You may need deliverance and that is a good thing.
I know some ---may--- react and say is he saying we have a devil. The Pharisees did that. Overcomers do not debate ,argue let off steam etc. If you feel the message is not appropriate you can remove the writer and it at any time, the world is waiting and groaning for the manifestation of the sons of God.
May we all be found to be peacemakers, and on the cross of self disinterest. The scripture in 1Pet.1:16 says be ye holy, it doesn't say you are holy. As we walk in holiness we can say we are holy. why then does it say be ye holy?? Because it is a ongoing continual action. Can we make our selves holy?? It says be ye holy. No we are transformed and renewed in our mind. Can we transform our minds daily?? No it says be ye transformed in your mind daily.
We must walk in the Holy Spirit daily to have the armour work the holiness applied, The renewal of the mind. reading the bible doesn't transform the mind, it only informs the mind, the Spirit is our teacher. Daily, If we aren't chastened, we cannot move on. We are sons we need fathers work daily. could sit here till tomorrow morning explaining everything meant by every statement. It is best to have the Holy Spirit explain the rest. That is since we are filled with the fulness. This message is long and not full of explanation to all details, please read carefully. lots of genuine love to all.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6815 is a reply to message #6814] |
Sat, 20 February 2010 03:14 |
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, brodav9 wrote:
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> appreciate others to express their opinions, whether right or wrong.
> It is not possible to tell everything like you can when talking to a
> person face to face.
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> The motive for showing this video is not to tell anything new, to those
> who do know. Perhaps there are a large number of people who read forums
> would like to know. Being there was a anointing on it can we question
> the Holy Spirit??
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> Perhaps if we question the Holy Spirit maybe we are not ready.
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Look bro, you've got it all wrong. Let me take a moment and speak to you
directly. I am absolutely certain that you get a strange reaction from
people wherever you go. You are shunned and probably are treated badly.
What is different here (I hope I speak for everyone) is that we accept you
as a brother in the Lord. We want you to have the freedom to say what is
on your heart even if we can't understand you at times. That doesn't
mean we are going to accept everything you say--even if you CLAIM IT IS
FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT. So if you have that expectation, I'll save you a
lot of grief right now and tell you that it isn't going to happen.
On the other hand if you don't mind being treated like an equal around
here--where we sometimes will consider what you say as a blessing and at
other times let you know that you are waaay off base (that is the way I
get treated too!<grin>)--then we will welcome you with open arms.
Where else are you going to get a loving correction, if not here among
friends? So please come off of this high-horse-you-rode-in-on and receive
a few things from people who don't wish any ill toward you... I promise
you that you will not be treated this well anywhere else... deal?
It doesn't do anyone any good to go around thinking that they are being
rejected because of the spiritual dullness of the hearers. If you
continue to travel that road, you are going to continue to experience the
same sort of mis-treatment throughout the rest of your life and you will
continue to deceive yourself into thinking it is persecution. You will
also develop an attitude that blames those who reject you instead of
examining other possibilities. You will get to the point that your heart
will be hardened to the truth... a frightful thought. So how about it?
Are you with us as an equal? Or against us as an enemy? The choice is
truly yours to make and I pray you make the wise one.
Blessings,
William
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6816 is a reply to message #6815] |
Sat, 20 February 2010 12:36 |
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Thanks William for the post. would hug you personally if could. take our friendship and brotherhood seriously and mean no offence. It is hard to put into words sometimes what we are trying to say in posts. I want to say this to give understanding. would not ever want to hurt anyones feelings, and very indignant against division. It doesn't take long for finding the opp. to try to clear any misunderstandings, I have everybodies best interest at heart.
All of the forum brethren are desired to have the best Jesus went to the cross to give them.
That last church I visited everything that was going on in there gave evidence that they don't even know what time it is. Many are caught up in religious things and don't know and think all is okay.
We are truly blessed to have a good foundation of teaching. May God bless and give you all peace.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #6820 is a reply to message #6816] |
Mon, 22 February 2010 15:52 |
David Coleman
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Before starting this post would like to praise the Lord and give testimony. The Lord manifested a new laptop comp. Most excited because it is for ministry purposes.
This message is to bless all those who are seeking encouragement to recovery. Revival is a simular word but it is more like a call, whereas recovery is aimed at permanent renewal.
It only applies to those who need it. We shall take a look at the book of Ruth. So you can enjoy the message it willl be good to read the 4 chapters of Ruth.
Things to spot in the reading. You will see that Naomi who has a husband and the two sons. Basically they are out of the will of God and so the three men die. Naomi blames God for their calamity and thinks she is being mistreated.
The tempt comes to feel that way when your out of the will of God. The flesh cries out pity me. My faith is not working and God seems so far away, heaven is like brass.
If it were not for predestination and grace and mercy we would despair. All God's people are predestined. Even when they are out of the will of God there is a secret plan for their recovery. That plan was planted right in front of Naomi. She seems like she is going to miss it when she tells Ruth to stay behind. Naomi had already responded to the will of God which was placed in her heart. She didn't know that, she just says It's not God's will to be here so I'll go back to the land we left.
We see that it is God's plan for her to go back later in the book, she thinks she is doing it. There is where initial recovery starts. God wants to recover us more than we want to. We want to complain my faith isn't working. I'm losing all my blessings to. For Naomi to be miserable was the greatest thing that ever happened to her. Why?? Because it moved her back to God's will.
God does something else. He gives her a convert. Ruth wants to have Naomi's God. Naomi was a frustrated person and God gives her a convert. Ruth was a example to Naomi. She was a help to Naomi for faith all through the book. That can help us to. We share Jesus with people and then they get saved, then as we share our faith with them. Ussually the basics, it helps us to remember where we came from and we realise they may apply the thingsd we talk to them about. We also may see that they are going to do them while we really haven't been doing we just know things.
Ruth was getting all the blessings while Naomi was just bringing her to them. That's okay Naomi got her reward later.
Example-- one time while speaking to two older boys they prayed for Jesus to save them. Then were invited to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. They spoke in tongues. Then both of them had a vision. They said that they saw me and appeared to them as Moses. and that they should listen to me in the things being told them. Now understanding the reason for the two visions was that it was a double portion. That was one of the seeds planted by God in early ministry. The call and that it will be a double portion ministry.
Actually the testimony when reading this post at it's start, God actually gave two blessings yesterday. The laptop and the other is hard to explain.
two answers to prayer in one day. By the way you can claim a double portion.
Delight yourself in the Lord and he shall give you the desires of your heart. You won't have to do anything to make it happen.
So we see Naomi recovered and in the will of God. It was not difficult, God takes the initiative. If he makes you feel like all is falling apart, respond to him and prayer. He is calling. He has set up the whole thing. Naomi just had to say I'm out of the will of God and go back to the things she knew were right. She heard that. She heard that there was a report that there was food in Bethlehem, so they left Moab.
What is our food?? the word. it is our bread. we return to it and it builds faith. Rom.10:17. We have in our possession the will of God. we believe it is true. All we have to do is come out of Moab (doubt and unbelief) and apply by faith the word and promises.
With faith comes the enable. we can't make it happen. our faith most be in Jesus not in our faith. faith is the bridge to Jesus. Look at James from this perspective---Jam.1:5 If any of you lacks---he should ask God who gives generously to all without finding fault. Remember it is the devil who condemns. We just get anything under the blood and receive his holiness that is imputed to us. Also we are righteous by faith. Seek first the kingdom and ---his---righteousness--.
We can worship in Spirit and truth , ( not sing songs only) and enter his presence. then we have joy and receive the pleasures at his right hand forevermore. Just to make sure we remember, Naomi had the Godhead though it wasn't revealed like we know it. Jesus at that time was the Angel of the Lord. As far as manifestation goes. But in Ruth was the seed of Boaz which was the Christ Jesus.
It is God's will and plan for any need for recovery. We just respond to it by faith God will do the rest. Respond to it means faith activity as led by the Spirit.
I already know the answer to this question. This is for others. What does it mean to come to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ?? The 5-fold ministry has to know this and be walking in it to bring others into it. How can we teach it if we don't know it experiencially?? HEF was walking in it.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #7231 is a reply to message #6856] |
Sun, 01 August 2010 00:58 |
David Coleman
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In past experiences it was very good to use a trash compactor.
They are quite a machine. Yesterday for the first time got the priviledge of using a bailer machine.
While watching it operate the scripture came to mind, Lk.6:38 it is a good passage concerning giving. The bailer presses down a good measure is crushed together. It causes it all to shake together, when the bail comes out some drops off so as to be running over.
The same day our company put out all day for us over 30 extra large pizzas. Out of that I received pie for both brakes and lunch also. That saved spending money to eat that day. God uses people to meet our needs all the time. That is a good reason to love them also. Yes we have to learn to love those who don't do something for us also. May the Lord give me mercy for ever a time for taking things for granted.
The Lord is so worthy of thanks and praise for all his goodness. Do you want to do something to make the father's heart joyful-- say to him heavenly father, your son Jesus is a sweet smelling savor to you and to me.
read a statement today--- praise and thanks is a vigorous action of faith. What a wonderful time of praise today. God bless.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: bible study blessing for all [message #7342 is a reply to message #7231] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 11:24 |
David Coleman
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What a wonderful bible passage we have in Num. 23:19.
reading the passage by itself says a clear message to us of a secure understanding that God doesn't lie.
The background information to the verse is also very important.
It starts with Abraham. He receives a covenant promise that God is going to raise up a nation of holy people. The earnest of that was a miracle son.
He had to wait but Isaac came forth as manifested faith. Each time as a father would go on to glory, the blessing was placed on the son of election. The first born. Notice that for example with Jacob. Once Jacob got it there was not another for Esau.
All of that builds for us a clear picture that all of the blessing along with a seed was being passed down. The point in Heb. 11:18 In Isaac shall the seed be called. it continued as promised. In 11:39-40 we have it. What they had was the seed. For us we have the Jesus who was that seed. That is why it was said to Abraham all the nations shall be blessed in thy seed.
Therefore we see that the non-reversable promise has come to pass. God spoke and he made it good, the promise of blessing we now receive is Jesus the mighty son of God. Everyone knows that when you receive Jesus you are saying a short statement.
The statement I receive Jesus--it's really he receives us. but it is a bigger thing than that. We receive him and all he has promised. Most will say along with receiving Jesus they will go to heaven, or live for eternity.
It's like saying I receive a certain job. But that is really saying all that comes with that job. It's benefits and it's responsibility.
Gal.3:29 sums up the whole matter. The point for writing the way he did here is because the Jews were saying they are Abraham's seed. He wanted them to understand you have to be Christ's posession first. No wonder the blessing Balaam was talking about cannot be reversed. Even in Gal. 3:29 The seed Christ was carried all the way down to us. Also the blessing of Abraham has not failed. It has come to us.
The point is that God cannot lie and will make good what he has spoken. Gal.3 proves this. 2Cor. 1:20 all of the promises of God are yesa and amen. It cannot be reversed. haleluia.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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