Re: Deception, Using Creation Teaching [message #6526 is a reply to message #6521 ] |
Fri, 25 December 2009 07:52   |
james Messages: 1973 Registered: April 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL |
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Speaking of 'The Big Bang', God does say that there will be a great noise when He returns.
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a GREAT NOISE, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." II Peter 3:10
But I've never read anything about a 'great noise' or Big Bang when God created everything...
Maybe one of those Bibles that has a running commentary with an exposition of what God 'really' meant would be helpful.
'In the beginning [there was a great noise], and God created the heaven and the earth. [And a few billion years went by] and then God said, Let there be light...[and a few more billion years went by, and God said, that's enough for now, let's call it a day.]'(I made the commentary up to make a point)
I know that's a bit extreme, but it does show that when man gets to explaining God with his own intellect, he gets in trouble.
I'm thankful that a full understanding of how God did everything is not a prerequisite to a relationship with Him, but that He is looking for faith in Him.
"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Heb.11:6
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
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Re: Deception, Using Creation Teaching [message #7317 is a reply to message #6526 ] |
Sun, 05 September 2010 15:59   |
james Messages: 1973 Registered: April 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL |
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Stephen Hawking, who is thought to have the answers to many questions regarding the universe and how we got here, has now written a new book in which he has concluded that God wasn't involved in the creation of the universe. He is a mathmatical wiz, but this just proves how important faith in God's Word is, and how we're NOT to lean to our own understanding.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-09-03-hawking02_S T_N.htm
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
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Re: Deception, Using Creation Teaching [message #7560 is a reply to message #7327 ] |
Thu, 23 December 2010 11:02   |
james Messages: 1973 Registered: April 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL |
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Just an article I came across confirming just how 'smart' some people are...
The 30,000 year old girls pinkie...
"The 3 billion-letter genome derived from the child's finger SHOWS that the ice-age population of early humans was more diverse than previously thought."
See! There ya go...PROOF...3 billion-letter genome...Whatever!
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/12/23/siberia.human.an cestor.discovery/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
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Re: Deception, Using Creation Teaching [message #7585 is a reply to message #7561 ] |
Sat, 25 December 2010 10:42   |
james Messages: 1973 Registered: April 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL |
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Hardbones wrote on Thu, 23 December 2010 14:20 |
Something else interesting is the speed of light. Heard a report that there has been very little research done on "its constancy" The little that has been done has shown it to be deteriorating. Not sure how true it is. That would take care of "billions of years"
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Normally I don't get into astronomy/astrology too much, frankly because I just can't seem to wrap my brain around it...too much, too big...too many numbers for me to get a handle on, though it is fascinating. But I clicked on God TV a few minutes ago and Chuck Missler(know nothing about him) was talking about hidden codes in the genealogies of the OT. He mentioned the speed of light and the controverial conclusions reached by a guy named Barry Setterfield.
Well that reminded me of your post and statement about it(speed of light slowing down). So I did some looking around and found that Barry Setterfield from Australia, in 1981 released a finding that he believed that the speed of light was decreasing fast. But based on what I was able to find, his beliefs weren't received very well. The Institute of Creation Research rejected his finds in 1988, saying that his hypothesis was lacking in plausibility.
I don't know if others are studying this or not and what other findings are 'out there', but I find it mind boggling to be able to calculate the speed of light to begin with.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
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Re: Deception, Using Creation Teaching [message #7589 is a reply to message #7588 ] |
Sat, 25 December 2010 14:29   |
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william Messages: 1203 Registered: January 2006 |
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Get ready, I'll send you some people!
[Updated on: Sat, 25 December 2010 14:29] I want to believe!
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Re: Deception, Using Creation Teaching [message #7592 is a reply to message #7590 ] |
Sat, 25 December 2010 15:18   |
james Messages: 1973 Registered: April 2008 Location: Birmingham, AL |
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I find this amazing, when I went to the web site and began to read I thought of Mark and his interest in this subject. Then I remembered William's line of work and thought he would be interested and could either use it or recommend to Jman things to do to make it more sucessful. Before I could finish reading a few things that caught my eye (Carbon dating and speed of light), William had already noticed and was making the offer to steer people to the site.
I do agree concerning being cautious about the maturity (both spiritually and mentally) of young students. I've already learned things I didn't know...though that's not supprising, beings there is so much that I don't know. I believe education is a good thing as long as what's being taught doesn't distract from the Knowledge of God or contradict His Word. I don't think we must choose only one as long as we always know what the final authority is.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
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