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Jack Deere [message #13567] Tue, 22 September 2020 15:20 Go to next message
Mark L  is currently offline Mark L
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I was looking at another thread and noticed his name. I just finished rereading his 2 surprised books. I thought they were both quite good. Its obvious a deep work has been done in the mans life.
He made a very strong case for hearing from the Lord and God speaking today as he has all through history. All in all the books were quite good.

I couldn't help noticing a couple of things.

He never mentioned the Baptism in the HS and he never mentioned speaking in tongues. Other than I think there was one odd reference to tongues.

He did say he received his anointing to minister after John Wimber laid hands on him but never spoke to the issue of the Baptism.
He is obviusly charismatic as was John Wimber. There was strong encouragement all through his books for christians to pursue spiritual gifts and leadings of the Lord. I just can't help but wonder how he expected christians to do that.

Another thing I found odd was his continual reference to God speaking by impression, voices and thoughts "in his mind". God speaking to his mind. Sometimes exploding in his mind.
He mentioned often visions and the audible voice of the Lord but I couldn't help but notice the way it was referenced to his mind. Mind as in brain.

I sometimes have thoughts go through my mind that I am aware are the Lord but generally if the Lord impresses me about something it is in my heart as opposed to mind. Also speaking generally when he speaks it is to my heart. Lets just say that usually when he speaks to me it is to my heart and not my mind. I don't want to make to big a deal out of this I just couldn't help noticing it and found it odd.

I looked him up on the internet and found he has retired from active ministry to take care of his wife who either is or is near to becoming an alcoholic. His 13 yr old son also commited suicide which probably led to the wifes problems. The suicide issue is interesting as his own father committed suicide when he was 13. I can't help feeling sorry for him.



Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”

G.K. Chesterton
Re: Jack Deere [message #13571 is a reply to message #13567] Thu, 24 September 2020 14:53 Go to previous message
Gary  is currently offline Gary
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Mark L wrote on Tue, 22 September 2020 15:20
I was looking at another thread and noticed his name. I just finished rereading his 2 surprised books. I thought they were both quite good. Its obvious a deep work has been done in the mans life.
He made a very strong case for hearing from the Lord and God speaking today as he has all through history. All in all the books were quite good.

I couldn't help noticing a couple of things.

He never mentioned the Baptism in the HS and he never mentioned speaking in tongues. Other than I think there was one odd reference to tongues.

He did say he received his anointing to minister after John Wimber laid hands on him but never spoke to the issue of the Baptism.
He is obviusly charismatic as was John Wimber. There was strong encouragement all through his books for christians to pursue spiritual gifts and leadings of the Lord. I just can't help but wonder how he expected christians to do that.

Another thing I found odd was his continual reference to God speaking by impression, voices and thoughts "in his mind". God speaking to his mind. Sometimes exploding in his mind.
He mentioned often visions and the audible voice of the Lord but I couldn't help but notice the way it was referenced to his mind. Mind as in brain.

I sometimes have thoughts go through my mind that I am aware are the Lord but generally if the Lord impresses me about something it is in my heart as opposed to mind. Also speaking generally when he speaks it is to my heart. Lets just say that usually when he speaks to me it is to my heart and not my mind. I don't want to make to big a deal out of this I just couldn't help noticing it and found it odd.


I looked him up on the internet and found he has retired from active ministry to take care of his wife who either is or is near to becoming an alcoholic. His 13 yr old son also commited suicide which probably led to the wifes problems. The suicide issue is interesting as his own father committed suicide when he was 13. I can't help feeling sorry for him.




I talked to a brother a couple days ago and he knows someone in the holiness church, who had a man at his church who when he went to a drive thru and would place his order with his mind without speaking any words, they would take his order and he would go around to pay for his food. He thought he had a gift from God.

Very odd I do not think Telepathy is a gift.

Jesus on a number of occasions knew the thoughts of those around Him, I think this may be a word of knowledge. I heard a man recently on you tube, Chris Reed, who has a gift of the word of knowledge. I watched because he was in our area last weekend at some church.

He was able to tell a person quite a bit of information about their lives and then would minister to them. Some were saying that this gift was similar to what William Branham had.

The whole thing on the video seemed legit but I cannot for the life of me see someone asking Jesus to give us a little demo of your gift.

The supernatural events seem to be increasing in our area, more churches are saying God is moving in their midst.

Gary



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