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Found on the Internets [message #12655] Thu, 03 January 2019 00:18 Go to next message
Mark L  is currently offline Mark L
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I was looking at Youtube and found this guy posting all these tapes by HEF. Which of course I thought was great. He made some interesting comments of his own which I don't entirely agree with but thought were quite good. I have no idea who he is but I'm glad he is doing it.

He also made the comment that doctor and hospital error is the 3thd leading cause of death in the US which in spite of Freemans teaching astounded me. So I looked it up. Turns out he is right and it might even be higher.

I edited his comments a little to make paragraphs so it would be easier to read.


One important matter when you listen to these cassette tapes. These tapes were spoken to a mature church that has been growing in faith for many years. The place God wants to bring us to is total depending on Jesus for all our needs physical financial spiritual etc.

It takes time for this growing to take place and there is a danger in telling people to stop talking all medicine or seeking medical advice when they are not sufficiently instructioned in God's word and how to meet conditions. As a result some have been hurt badly or even died early as they have tried and hoped for healing they were not ready to receive.

He mentions this on a number of tapes but not enough as some people hear just a few messages and try the divine healing teaching then waver and doubt if circumstances get worse and end up hurting themselves and giving the message of healing from all our diseases a bad name. Remember what Jesus said to His disciples. I have many things to say to you but you cannot bear them now.

There is a growth and maturing that comes with time. So as you hear more tapes keep this in mind as some things could have been presented more carefully to all people listening to make sure they understand fully especially new believers in the Lord. On the other hand he has tremendous knowledge and safe sound teaching we have found nowhere else.

If something is said that needs to be explained please ask or just wait on it before the Lord as I think this could be taken the wrong way by some people.Be blessed.

One more thought I would like to share. Mr Freeman on his tapes as I listen to them again after many years gone by seems to have a real contempt disdain and rails on medical science as he points out the real dangers of doctors and medicine. Hospitals and doctors are now the third leading cause of death in the United States behind cancer and heart disease. I personally prefer to just hear the clear bold teaching of God's word and leave out the harsh criticism and let the saints of God and the Holy Spirit lead His people in deeper faith and trust in His word step by step. With this in mind you can have a true scriptural balance and grow in grace and knowledge of the word of God.

As you listen to more messages see if what I am saying seems true. I have benefited tremendously from his ministry learning theology, ethics, faith, Old Testament, deeper deliverance, Greek, Hebrew and on and on from sound conservative teaching from this doctor of theology I could have only learned by going to seminary. His experience and correct doctrinal teaching is almost impossible to find elsewhere and I hesitate to recommend anyone else except Christ the Healer book.

There is so much error and false teaching in Christianity and a sound teacher will help your discernment by the Holy Spirit as you test these false teachers. Jesus warned us to take heed lest any man deceive us.

With all this in mind God will keep and preserve us in the truth as we study His word watch and pray listen to the checks in our hearts that the Holy Spirit gives us to discern truth from error and we can rest in His promise to keep us in the truth to the end Thank you for letting me share my thoughts and heart with you and may the Lord preserve and keep us to the end Amen


Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”

G.K. Chesterton
Re: Found on the Internets [message #12656 is a reply to message #12655] Thu, 03 January 2019 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
william  is currently offline william
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Wow, I hadn't seen these. The last time I looked there were just a few but this guy is prolific in his production!

Thanks for the heads-up!

Blessings,
William


I want to believe!
Re: Found on the Internets [message #13044 is a reply to message #12655] Sun, 29 December 2019 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary  is currently offline Gary
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Mark,

This is really interesting, I wished you had a link to this site. I have been going back through the Word and searching out all the scriptures on divine healing. If anyone would take a serious look at what is written you would find that its definitely in the Bible.

God wants us to Trust Him in every area of our lives including healing. Is there anything to hard for the Lord?

I don't think it will be a group thing where its whatever the group is doing. Its as; an individual we are to seek Him out and lay it all before Him. Other people will never understand what we are doing and we'll be rejected by men when we seek only the Lord.
I know everybody's heard all of this, If you look at all the healing verses, and then see that God is not a man that He should lie nor the son of man that He should repent, hath He said it will He not make it good.

I've made a lot of dumb decisions since the church closed down but the Lord is helping me to understand Him and what He wants. I'm going to share more in a post I started but waiting on the Lord.

If we forgive men their trepasses out heavenly Father will forgive our trepasses, but if we don't forgive men their trepasses neither will our Father in heaven forgive our trepasses.

I liked what you said in another post on demons, and that is; that God is bigger then what we can imagine.

Any rate, great post it would be interesting to hear more thoughts from this guy.

In Him,
Gary




Re: Found on the Internets [message #13045 is a reply to message #12655] Mon, 30 December 2019 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark L  is currently offline Mark L
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Here is the link Gary. I think there is several hundred there now.

https://tinyurl.com/u85eoja

[Updated on: Mon, 30 December 2019 02:11]


Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”

G.K. Chesterton
Re: Found on the Internets [message #13046 is a reply to message #13045] Mon, 30 December 2019 12:44 Go to previous message
Gary  is currently offline Gary
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Mark L wrote on Mon, 30 December 2019 01:26
Here is the link Gary. I think there is several hundred there now.

https://tinyurl.com/u85eoja



Thanks for the Link.
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