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Giant Heresy [message #9690] Sun, 25 August 2013 14:59 Go to next message
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Who were the Nephilim?

Why was Goliath a giant genetically?

I know serpent seed is heresy which is Eve mating with Satan to produce Cain.

We know of Incubus and Succubus. Can offspring be produced?

We know of Cherubim, Seraphim, and Teraphim. From my understanding, Teraphim can become human form. Did we not learn that in OT theology?


What is the proper take on the book of Enoch? Many are quoting from this book.

I am dealing with a few who have bought into all of this.


All of this is becoming a HUGE deal in the church.


Some are saying that this is how aliens (occult) will be explained and be a part of the end-times.


Anybody have any sound doctrine on all of this?



[Updated on: Sun, 25 August 2013 15:47]


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: Giant Heresy [message #9691 is a reply to message #9690 ] Sun, 25 August 2013 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GWB wrote on Sun, 25 August 2013 14:59



All of this is becoming a HUGE deal in the church.




I know by 'church' you're refering to some segment of the 'institutional system' known to the world as church, right? Surely not the Body of Christ of born-again believers. I've been visiting various 'churches' for about the last 4 months seeking some semblance of a NT Bible based 'church'.......Still looking!

But I haven't heard anything of these things being discussed; plently of loud, comtemporary, popular, radio station sounding music; and some basic cotton-candy and kool-aid sermonets...but at least no heresies or mention of demons or the occult.(I'm not too sure I've came across any that even believe they exist, yet) Guess that says a lot, hummm?


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Re: Giant Heresy [message #9692 is a reply to message #9690 ] Mon, 26 August 2013 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GWB wrote on Sun, 25 August 2013 14:59

Who were the Nephilim?

Why was Goliath a giant genetically?

I know serpent seed is heresy which is Eve mating with Satan to produce Cain.

We know of Incubus and Succubus. Can offspring be produced?

We know of Cherubim, Seraphim, and Teraphim. From my understanding, Teraphim can become human form. Did we not learn that in OT theology?


What is the proper take on the book of Enoch? Many are quoting from this book.

I am dealing with a few who have bought into all of this.


All of this is becoming a HUGE deal in the church.


Some are saying that this is how aliens (occult) will be explained and be a part of the end-times.


Anybody have any sound doctrine on all of this?







There is evidence of a race of men who were giants in the earth. The men in Joshua returned and said we are like grasshoppers in their sight.

Nepilhim are pre-flood giants that existed on the earth.

Also I read an article that some scholars believe Jude is quoting from the book of Enoch.

Quote:

14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”


I think some church fathers thought that the book of Enoch was scripture. There are many books out there along with this one, the Book of giants, describes where the giants came from mentioned in the book of Enoch. It was found with the dead sea scrolls in a different spot from where they kept the scriptures.

Interesting subject but we have enough to deal with concerning the scriptures we have without other writings being involved. I think the NT mentions a third letter to the Corinthians that was never found.

I have some pictures of giant skeletons found in archeology but I'm not able to put them on the board here.

Anyway I have not heard of any movement to introduce the book of Enoch into a church setting. What group is doing this?

One more thing I do not believe there are aliens out there that is the invention of man.

Gary



Re: Giant Heresy [message #9693 is a reply to message #9692 ] Mon, 26 August 2013 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is the link with pictures of giant skeletons of humans found by archeologists:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcsaoffblock&p=giant%2 0skeletons%20archeology

If these are for real some may be 30 or 35 feet tall or taller. Notice the excavator in one of the pictures gives you an idea of the height.

Addendum: Well Snopes thinks they are fake that it is impossible for a human to be this size.

But in the Bible it does say that the men felt like grasshoppers when comparing themselves with the giants they saw. I tend to lean towards the fact that those men saw something that made them afraid.

I don't understand your title though, are you saying that these giants are a heresay or the book of Enoch?

Gary


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Re: Giant Heresy [message #9694 is a reply to message #9693 ] Mon, 26 August 2013 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The title is just a play on words referring to any possible heresy that may be propagating. It is clear that their were giants mentioned in the Word.

I know the denominational system is a joke. But, I also feel that there are sincere believers mixed in with the tares. This is the group I am concerned about.

There are many books coming out about all of this. I read a lot and I have been noticing the huge interest. Any error would sure tickle many ears, which is so prevalent anymore.

Are incubus and succubus able to produce offspring with humans? People are saying that this is where the giants came from and that a sub-race is rising to deceive the world as aliens. They say that this is the great lie that many will buy into.

Bizarre, but people are eating it up.


Shalom,

GWB

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Re: Giant Heresy [message #9695 is a reply to message #9694 ] Tue, 27 August 2013 04:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not trying to be rude here, but don't know and don't care to know.

Its better to keep ones mind on the Lord.

Philippians 4:8
[ Meditate on These Things ] Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.

Testimony:

When I was a young Christian I had a book called Demonolgy written by a well known Christian. It had stories of a little boy that could turn invisible before your eyes until they took him through deliverance. A woman that had bite marks would come on her body and you would not see what was biting her, she also went through deliverance.

I heard where something smashed into a window and was laying on a bed you could see the hoofs and the weight of the creature pushing the mattress down but not what it was.

Anyway I was fascinated with this stuff, then one day the Lord spoke to me and said, To much involvement with the occult and deliverance can open doors to the demonic.

I did keep one book on deliverance which was a true story, if you read it you will want to sleep with the lights on at night, its that vivid. Its out of print is why I hung on to it.

But to make a long story short I don't know if those Christians you mentioned here should be pursuing this type of knowledge, its not good and can open doors.

Just my opinion here.

Gary



Re: Giant Heresy [message #9696 is a reply to message #9695 ] Tue, 27 August 2013 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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People are saying that this is where the giants came from and that a sub-race is rising to deceive the world as aliens. They say that this is the great lie that many will buy into.

Bizarre, but people are eating it up.

Bizarre is right


I do think there are some very strange things coming. To me Dan 2/43 speaks of something very strange in the end days. I also think there is a big breakthrough coming in science. Genetics biology artificial intelligence and computers for starters. There is also a tidal wave of the occult coming and some very strange things there as well.

I don't see anything wrong with keeping up with what the xian world is saying though. There is a big difference between seeking info like that and being aware of whats going on.

Are incubus and succubus able to produce offspring with humans?

They must be able to if they want. I don't think it was incubi before the flood athough whatever they were they were spiritual creatures.

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Re: Giant Heresy [message #9697 is a reply to message #9696 ] Tue, 27 August 2013 18:07 Go to previous message
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I agree. I don't want to entertain demonic activity without good reason.

I guess we will just watch and see where all of this goes. Smile


Shalom,

GWB

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