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Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1262 is a reply to message #1260] Mon, 18 February 2008 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick wrote

Actually I just finished 4 years of ministry to a Native tribe in the midwest, and battled spiritual witchcraft from medicine lodge members who oppose the gospel. I've been threatened physically and spiritually many times, and seen the power of the enemy first hand, so no I did not learn from a John Wayne movie

I would be interested in hearing more about that. Especially the witchcraft. Would you mind filling me in.


Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”

G.K. Chesterton
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1263 is a reply to message #830] Mon, 18 February 2008 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some have asked for testimonies, some have been critical of controlling the heavenlies. I can only give a couple of testimonies of moving the heavenlies, but I believe they have relevance to those who don't believe that God will move the heavenlies on our behalf. An FA couple that introduced us to the faith message and Dr. Freeman's ministry invited us to go camping on a spring weekend in Indiana. The weather report was for rain all weekend. They told me that they prayed and asked that we not get rained on. They confessed that it would not rain on us the whole weekend. Well, when we left it was raining. It rained all the way to the State Park. Interestingly enough, when we got there, as soon as I put my hand on the door handle of the truck, it stopped raining. At least long enough for us to register and get some supplies. AS soon as we were in the truck it rained again. We drove to our campsite which was covered by a beautiful canopy of leaves, the site was dry. We set up camp, had lunch and wanted to go hiking. We had been hearing the rain on the leaves above us for an hour, but now the sun came out, clouds parted and we had a great hike in the woods. As soon as the hike was over, the clouds and rain came back. This happened over and over all weekend. We were never touched by a drop of rain. I had never heard of faith like this, or that you could ask God for such a thing as this. Raised Methodist, I didn't believe in much of anything. I had to check into this more closely. We began going to Bruce Kinsey's meetings and learned a great deal about faith. In another instance, I was assisting a farmer, Bill Fouts get his hay in the barn. A severe storm came up while we were working in the fields. I saw Bill point at the storm and command it not to rain on his field while we were getting the hay in. We kept working and I watched the clouds part and rain so hard it was running off into drainage ditches on both sides of our field, but we only got the wind, no rain. As we were putting the last bale of hay on the conveyor up into the hay barn, I felt the first drop of rain. The heavens opened up when that bale was off the conveyor. I have experienced many other less dramatic events, but personal experience has proven that God will move the heavenlies if we ask.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1264 is a reply to message #830] Mon, 18 February 2008 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never said I didn't believe God could make it rain or whatever. Obviously God can do that, I guess it was the manner in which it was said that set me off. Something about the words "controlling the heavenlies" just bothers me.

Hardbones, I could curl your hair with some of my testimony about my ministry with the indians. There were a lot of wonderful moves of the Holy Spirit along with the enemy's moves.

On many occasions we had all night prayer meetings. And I mean all night from sun-down to sun-up, praying and singing all night. In one the last prayer meetings I attended there were two candidates for healing. One was an elderly native lady who was diagnosed with cancer with abdominal pain and not given long to live, and the other was a one year old native baby boy who was very sickly from birth. The baby was grossly underweight for his age and not eating well, shivering and crying uncontrollably and had been in this state for weeks, the doctors being no help at all and had given him up to die.

I was one of the ministers at the meeting and witnessed the miracle, as in the morning the baby was bright-eyed and feeding normally, no longer crying and looking like a new person. The old lady is alive and both are doing well to this day, as far as I know.

A book could be written about all of the experiences I witnessed in my time of ministry there, but I prefer to recollect the high points and forget the dark times of spiritual warfare. The indians are a superstitious race and have deep roots in the occult, medicine lodge members are known to transform into animals and such things, and the believers suffered under a constant barrage of spiritual distractions when trying to do God's will, as in one case when the tent we were meeting in shook uncontrollably for hours when there was no wind, or the sounds of otherworldly animals outside when trying to pray. There were many claims of injury and death caused by the evil practitioners on God's people, but it is hard to verify with any certainty the exact cause of many of these mishaps.

Anyway, I have had some experience of ministry both to natives and whites which I would have rather not mentioned, prefering just to be another brother rather than seen as anything special, which as you know is the calling of ministry to be under all people rather than over all, but maybe some experience or knowledge that I have can help others?

To those who I have offended with blunt speech I offer no apology. God has made me see things a certain way, which may not be the same way that you see it. Its nothing personal. No need to take offense. These are just small words in a big world.





Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1265 is a reply to message #1264] Mon, 18 February 2008 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick I sent you and email.


Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”

G.K. Chesterton
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1266 is a reply to message #1265] Mon, 18 February 2008 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Back at you Brother. Nice to meet you.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1267 is a reply to message #830] Tue, 19 February 2008 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why is it so quiet?

Grandom, Believer and Ump1 where are you?

No more stories about how you twisted God's arm to control the heavenlies and make the sun come out?
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1268 is a reply to message #830] Wed, 20 February 2008 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ump1,

Thanks for your wonderful testimony of how God moved on your behalf.....

Amen Brother


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1269 is a reply to message #830] Wed, 20 February 2008 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What Ron... not thankful for my testimony? HeHeHe.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1270 is a reply to message #830] Wed, 20 February 2008 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick,
Thanks for sharing your testimonies with us,
Praise Jesus for what He has done thru you !


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1290 is a reply to message #1267] Sat, 23 February 2008 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DERICK N SAID - Why is it so quiet? Grandom, Believer and Ump1 where are you? No more stories about how you twisted God's arm to control the heavenlies and make the sun come out?

Believer is here but I choose to be quiet and not write. I will spend my time in things that edifying and draw me closer to God then to listen to your hurtful comments. Jesus said He who recieves a righteous man in the name of a righteous man will recieve a righteous mans reward. You judged me, were critical of me in a way that I don't sense was of God. If someone has seen and performed the works of God that you claim you do then how could you not believe that the heavenlies can be moved with my prayer to meet my needs for rain. I don't know you at all but I see you are a debater and nobody can debate someone into a belief or faith about God and His promises. The Spirit of God needs to have gone before. God will, does and has moved the heavenlies for me. That's where my fiath is at. Your hurtful and critical comments on this site do not encourage me to continue to seek God or to share what God is doing in my life on this chat line. In fact they turn me away from even wanting to participate. Your hurtful and cruel manner hasn't drawn me to want to know more about what God is doing in your life but has caused me to be cautious of you. I don't twist God's arm but petition Him through prayer to act and He does for me. Again I say, many will say I prophised in your name, cast out demons in your name but Jesus says get away from me because I never knew you. Jesus when He ministerd on this earth was full of Grace and truth. If you never hear from me again it is because I am still believing and getting closer to God and not being entangled by critical, cruel, hurtful debate.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1294 is a reply to message #1290] Sat, 23 February 2008 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Believer wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 22:11

DERICK N SAID - Why is it so quiet? Grandom, Believer and Ump1 where are you? No more stories about how you twisted God's arm to control the heavenlies and make the sun come out?

Believer is here but I choose to be quiet and not write. I will spend my time in things that edifying and draw me closer to God then to listen to your hurtful comments. Jesus said He who recieves a righteous man in the name of a righteous man will recieve a righteous mans reward. You judged me, were critical of me in a way that I don't sense was of God. If someone has seen and performed the works of God that you claim you do then how could you not believe that the heavenlies can be moved with my prayer to meet my needs for rain. I don't know you at all but I see you are a debater and nobody can debate someone into a belief or faith about God and His promises. The Spirit of God needs to have gone before. God will, does and has moved the heavenlies for me. That's where my fiath is at. Your hurtful and critical comments on this site do not encourage me to continue to seek God or to share what God is doing in my life on this chat line. In fact they turn me away from even wanting to participate. Your hurtful and cruel manner hasn't drawn me to want to know more about what God is doing in your life but has caused me to be cautious of you. I don't twist God's arm but petition Him through prayer to act and He does for me. Again I say, many will say I prophised in your name, cast out demons in your name but Jesus says get away from me because I never knew you. Jesus when He ministerd on this earth was full of Grace and truth. If you never hear from me again it is because I am still believing and getting closer to God and not being entangled by critical, cruel, hurtful debate.


Well my manner is blunt, but not cruel, and if you perceived it that way I apologize.

As I said in another post, I was under the impression that there might be some actual overcomers on this forum. An overcomer is not going to let a few words bother him, or make him run and hide. You do know that there are places in the world where you will be tortured and killed for confessing Christ?

If a few harsh words send you into hiding, how will you stand in the evil days which lay ahead?
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1496 is a reply to message #1294] Fri, 28 March 2008 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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“Why is it so quiet” started me writing on this website in Feb 2008 and now its March 2008. It was done originally in response to an Oct 2007 posting made by Michael the Disciple. You said “ Literally hundreds of people pass through this board daily! Why are you all not posting? Is practically all who come here just looking for past info on Bro. Freeman?” I responded because I was challenged about the reference to Dr Freeman. Not because I came seeking info about Dr Freeman. I came seeking info on what God was doing in other Christian’s lives, especially those who had a similar experience to mine ie who had sat under Dr Freeman’s ministry. I love to hear about how Jesus is moving amongst believers but especially about how He is moving amongst those who have sat under Dr Freeman’s teaching. Therefore, I write again!

God is not quiet! He is just waiting to hear from the many, who like me are bruised reeds and smoking flaxes. We have been hurt and extremely hurt. We need to be healed and it can happen. It did happen to me! I believe this website is part of that healing process. Thank you! It’s taken 26 years! Thank you for being a part. It is an overcomers site but I’m not sure that we understand what needs to be overcome.

Isaiah 43: 3 states that a bruised reed and a smoking flax He shall not break or quench. I WAS once one of those who were bruised and smoking. This website assisted in healing that hurt I suffered. May the Lord Jesus continue to heal many more through this site. I am now a testament to what God can do with hurt. My case isn’t exceptional. There are many more who have been hurt more deeply than I have ever been hurt but one thing I do know and it’s that God will remain true to Isaiah 43. 3 “a bruised reed and a smoking flax He shall not break or quench’’. Lets pray for those who are in the same condition as I was. I know I was bruised and smoking but God has strengthened me and I am healed. Healing can take place in many forms.

I write tonight, because I remembered this morning, many, many years ago Dr Freeman spoke about receiving a vision where he was sitting next to or was he sitting on a well with Jesus. I remember hearing it on one of his tapes years and years ago ie 26 years. Does any body else recall this vision he received and relayed over a tape?

Doesn’t really matter if you don’t because this morning I was praying and the Lord quicken to my spirit this vision Dr Freeman received years ago. In John 4:42 it speaks of the women of Samaria at a well. John 4:4 states Jesus must needs to go through Samaria. He was lead of the Spirit of God! I now must needs share with you about John 4.

In John 4 Jesus spoke to the Women of Samaria about living waters, she thought her people had the way to God. Jesus tried to speak to the woman of Samaria about the Water of life He could give her but she kept trying to tell Him she knew what it was all about. Let us not be like the women of Samaria but let us ask Him for the Living Water that springs up into eternal life. Don’t let us say we have the way but let us ask Him for the Water of Life. I have asked Jesus for the living water. Could this be what the vision to Dr Freeman meant? The Women from Samaria was convinced she had it ie the truth about how to get to God. Could Dr Freeman misunderstood what Jesus was trying to communicate to him in this vision? I only ask.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #7404 is a reply to message #830] Thu, 21 October 2010 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael The Disciple wrote on Wed, 17 October 2007 00:10

Literally hundreds of people pass through this board daily! Why are you all not posting? Is practically all who come here just looking for past info on Bro. Freeman?

I love to hear things about him and Faith Assembly positive or negative as long as they are true. But there is much truth to yet be sorted out among those who believe.





And so, 3 years later, I too wonder..."Why Is It So Quiet?"

How can professing Christians have nothing to share from God with fellow Christians? This has been a burden on my heart for months and months, I've prayed about it, fasted about it,(don't worry about me losing any reward for making my subplications known...I wasn't doing it to receive a reward.) In the last 6 months I've read (without joining) regularly on quite a few different 'Christian' forums, and while the participation of the members are something to envy, the content of discussion and what is allowed to be discusssed leaves much to be desired.

Folks we have given unto us a means to both edify and build each other up as well as share the truths we've been blessed with, to grow in the gifts and exercise what God has given us. I, for one am grateful to William for all the work he has put into this forum to keep it available to us. I would hate to see it go away, but without participation how long will The Lord continue to use it? I know that I'm experiencing spiritual battles that try to hinder what The Lord has put on my heart
to do, but how can I even consider myself a follower of Christ if I allow Satan to so easily deter me?

How about you? Will you let the cares of daily life hinder your opportunity to share Jesus, testify of what He has done?


“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #7405 is a reply to message #7404] Thu, 21 October 2010 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're right James, we all have things to share of what God is doing in our lives. I think for me it has been so busy with taking care of my elderly mother, working full time, and now living with my niece and her 3 1/2 year old daughter. What use to be free time is now time being busy, but that is just a lame excuse because we should always be able to find time to share about God's blessings and faithfulness in our lives. I come to this site various times through the day to see what people have said, so what ever you have written has not been for nothing, but rather for edifying others while they are going through hard times. I agree, we cannot let Satan hinder what God has done and is doing on this site. Thanks to you and William for being used of God to bless others. I for one will try to be more involved in this site because I am blessed by what has been written and shared. Now, on that note I must get ready for work. Lord bless you.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #7415 is a reply to message #7405] Sat, 23 October 2010 13:56 Go to previous message
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Well I guess you got me James. The last while I've just felt so tired. Plus I've been working a lot of local work and its long hours and tiring. I've started wondering if there's anything like a normal job. I'm not complaining here just explaining.

I guess all I can say is the last while I've been tired and haven't felt like talking to anyone. Just more or less huddling in my house here. This is my home page so I always come here first. I'll be making more of an effort.

[Updated on: Sat, 23 October 2010 15:18]


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