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Why Is It So Quiet? [message #830] Wed, 17 October 2007 05:10 Go to next message
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Literally hundreds of people pass through this board daily! Why are you all not posting? Is practically all who come here just looking for past info on Bro. Freeman?

I love to hear things about him and Faith Assembly positive or negative as long as they are true. But there is much truth to yet be sorted out among those who believe.

[Updated on: Wed, 17 October 2007 05:10]

Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #832 is a reply to message #830] Wed, 17 October 2007 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was a part of FA through the Lafayette meeting from 1976 to 1984, when I moved away from Indiana for employment reasons. I had attended some FA meetings, but mostly went to Bruce Kinsey's meetings. I have been to Tom Hamiltons, Steve Hills, and Dave Hardy's meetings as well. Getting to know some of the ministers and their wives was a revealing experience. Funny how some of the ministers would preach one thing but live another. Let me preface this story by saying that I am very grateful to Bruce and DR. Freeman for the teaching that I received. I am the dedicated Deciple today because of these men. However, They Taught me to rightly divide the word for myself, and prove that what they teach is the truth and lines up with the Word of God. Ok, so anyway, I had a teacher visit our family to get away from what was going on in Indiana. We were in a vacation state that is very popular in the winter, and dr. Freeman had just passed away, Lafayette was still dealing with Bruce being removed as Pastor. I learned many little secrets of some of the leadership that proved to me that they were just regular folks, not the icons that they were built up to be. I was saddened at the duplicity, but understood it, considering the absolute control Dr. Freeman had. I learned that one was a tremendous Chicago Cubs fan, and would listen to games on a small radio with earphones whenever he cut grass or studied or even just before taking the pulpit to preach if a game was being broadcast at the time. This would not have been received well. The minister that visited us also had their little swares into the world. Ministers wife liked to wear jeans, but could not wear them except in the house or like when they visited us. She went with my wife to buy a swim suit that would not have been acceptable back in Indiana, so she could enjoy the sun during her visit. TVs in the closet, things like that. I thought it quite insightful that many of these ministers under Dr. Freeman did not completely agree with him in private, but only publicly. I hold Bruce Kinsey in high regard for trying to reason with Dr. Freeman on some issues. His treatment for standing up for what he believed was horrible. I could tell you a lot of stories that were related to me by friends when the Lafayette meeting had the big split over Bruce' removal.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #833 is a reply to message #832] Wed, 17 October 2007 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow interesting.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #834 is a reply to message #833] Wed, 17 October 2007 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And what did Bruce believe that HEF did not?
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #839 is a reply to message #834] Tue, 23 October 2007 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce kept many things to himself, but as I understood from one of his messages, he was having trouble with identifying certain items of apparrel as Gay, Adidas shoes for example. As I remember, he asked for us to pray and lift up his situation as he sought to confront Dr. Freeman with some of his concerns about the direction the messages were taking. Legalism, etc.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1222 is a reply to message #839] Fri, 15 February 2008 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keep posting everyone. I was challenged by your comments. I don't come here to hear about Hobart Freeman but to read how God is working in the lives of others. 26 years it has been since I have wanted to know what other Christians were doing let alone what other FA members were doing. Bruce Kinsey was someone I never met but heard about 25 years ago as I sat under that teaching. I was saddened to hear about his departure from FA then, but still my compassion for him about his departure was with him. I sent him a letter or was it a card all those years ago seeking to influence him to keep close to the Lord and that he was still with him. I knew that even though he left FA the Lords love was still upon him. Maybe he remembers the card I sent and it encoraged him to never give up on his salvation. I prayed that God keep him safe and well and close to Him as I'm sure many others did too. (I wonder what our Lord does with all those conflicting prayers that I have read others have been lead to pray?) I know I prayed in faith. I do believe there are higher truths than just the pray of faith and God's will is always done. We often believe we know the mind of God and pray down judjment but is it the mind of God or just our own anger and frustration. ONLY GOD knows hearts and I know that a bruise reed God will not break nor a smoking flax he will not quench. Praise him!

I was blessed to listen to other ministers of God whilst I listened to FA teaching. We can only live the life that we believe God has for each of us. We will all stand accountable for it one day. Our gifts, what ever they are and how often we use them and what we use them for will be accountable to the Lord one day.. I myself am asking my Lord what gifts have you given me and how am I using them. Will I be able to stand before You and say that You lead me to do that?.... and am I using them to bring in Your kingdom. These days I am praying to control the heavenlies to alter seasons, times and happenings. I have begun to exercise that power in the heavenlies. I will be accountable for it one day. I have faith assembly's message on faith that has helped me exercise the faith to do it. I believe I have the faith with God's help to move the heavenlies. I commanded the heavenlies to not rain very heavy over my place...guess what?... it didn't rain as heavy over my place. Once I watched on the weather tracking radar and the rain went in a circle, skipping our place. I was gob smacked. Right before my eyes I could see God was working in the heavenlies for me. Once I commanded it to rain when my dam was dry and it rained. This rain event was so supernatural that I was amazed - a black cloud appeared coming from a different direction where clouds never appear from, and this cloud was all on its own appearing from nowhere, dark and forbodding laiden with rain and it rained right over my dam! Really, right over my dam! Praise God my water issues were met. Days before, I had asked the next door neighbour if I could pump water from their enourmous dam (they had more than they ever needed) because mine was dry and they said no. God was showing me he provides my needs and that he can control the clouds with my prayer of faith. Despite my own efforts to supply my needs He did it. It was truely a magnificient expereience. This was the beginning, some 5 years ago, of what God was showing. He was calling me to use my prayer of faith in the heavenlies. I have begun to use this power as God leads. God is only just beginning to show me the great power He has given to me to bring in His Kingdom. Like Daniel I will move the heavenly bodies for God's kingdom.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1224 is a reply to message #1222] Fri, 15 February 2008 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Believer wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 06:35

These days I am praying to control the heavenlies to alter seasons, times and happenings. I have begun to exercise that power in the heavenlies. I will be accountable for it one day. I have faith assembly's message on faith that has helped me exercise the faith to do it. I believe I have the faith with God's help to move the heavenlies.


I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I would have rather heard that God took away the pain of a headache or healed a rotten tooth, or someone got salvation than you think you made it rain, but I guess we look for God's presence these days wherever we can find it. The old indians could make it rain as well, so thats really nothing special.

Are you keeping free from sin? Sharing the Word? Studying to show yourself approved unto God?

Anybody with any discernment knows that we are in dead-zone now with precious few clues to God's power in the world. Its my opinion that its a time to quietly stand and wait, but I think I have the mind of the Lord.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1225 is a reply to message #839] Fri, 15 February 2008 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ump1 wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 15:42

Bruce kept many things to himself, but as I understood from one of his messages, he was having trouble with identifying certain items of apparrel as Gay, Adidas shoes for example. As I remember, he asked for us to pray and lift up his situation as he sought to confront Dr. Freeman with some of his concerns about the direction the messages were taking. Legalism, etc.


Brother Freeman had more anointing in his little toe than Bruce ever had.

To say that Bruce's division from faith was over a sneaker is ridiculous. The parable of the sower and the seed covers Bruce's "ministry" very succinctly. He could not take the heat, so he withered and died like most of the ministry when they got out from under Brother Freeman's shadow
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1226 is a reply to message #1224] Fri, 15 February 2008 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had forgotten how cold and heartless people can be. When my needs (whatever they are) are met by the Lord then I praise Him for that. To have you scorn the way that the Lord met them saddens me. I'm sorry but you didn't understand that there was a drought here and water was as precious as gold at the time. I had animals and gardens to keep. I saw the Lord look after me. It's my walk with God not yours. Your comments did nothing to show me that the critical, hard and unloving attitude that prevailed in those who were under the FA message has changed. Keeping free from sin, sharing the word. I am in God's kingdom not yours or anybody else's. I will walk with Him and He will speak to me about me. Thankfully His nurture and care of me is a lot better than what has been shown here. This is the first time I've got involved with a site like this and it will be the last. I have better things to do with my time than to have my walk with God riducled so harshly. By this shall you know that you are My disciples by the love you have for one another. My spirit will witness with your spirit that we are the children of God. I was once under that hard critical, unloving atmosphere that I have just felt here. Thankfully I have been removed. May the Lord show you his mercy,love and kindness and may your eyes be opened to see it in the lives of others too and may you be given a heart of compassion to pray for those that don't walk as you walk.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1227 is a reply to message #1226] Fri, 15 February 2008 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Believer,

I hope you don't think that we all are still stuck in the mud. I enjoyed your testimony and hope that you will stick around and see the hearts of some of the others here.

Most of us have attempted to hold fast to the good word we were taught and at the same time lose the rotten attitudes (Hombre and I still need a little work though!<grin>).

At least stick around a while before shaking the dust off of your feet!

Blessings,
William


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Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1228 is a reply to message #1227] Fri, 15 February 2008 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, that is refreshing to hear. My sheep hear My voice and they listen to Me. I can hear God's voice and I recognize it too because it's gentle, it's loving, it's kind, it rebukes but when He does it's never to trample me under. I have a grandaughter and the Lord's voice is speaking to me about so many things. I've raised 4 kids and now I have a grandaughter. It's like I have the time to see how God feels about us. The nurture and care I have for my grandaughter is nothing compared to what God has towards us. I don't need anyone to tell me if God worked for me or not but what does greive me is that people are so quick to be critical. I can hear God's voice when it comes from others. Thank you for encouraging me to stay. I might. I had so much more to speak about how God was moving in my life. God saved my daughter 2 years ago. Now isn't that a blessing. I've brushed the dust off some of my old books (and i have many) and begun to read again. Currently I'm reading Alfred Edersheim - The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah.God is speaking to me in so many ways. One thing that is so plain to me is that in our lives we must be careful that we never loose sight of what all this is about - communion with God through Jesus. We need to be closer to Him and we can. I'm so happy that my bruise heart and broken spirit is being restored to learn more of my God.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1229 is a reply to message #1228] Sat, 16 February 2008 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's great!

I am currently reading an awesome book called Christ Crucified-72 Sermons on Isaiah 53 by James Durham. It is published by Naphtali Press and it is a bargain at $30. James Durham was a 17th century Scottish preacher... the book is giving a whole new meaning to the phrase "Great Scott!"

I'm looking forward to hearing more of your testimony.

Blessings,
William


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Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1230 is a reply to message #830] Sat, 16 February 2008 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick wrote:

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I would have rather heard that God took away the pain of a headache or healed a rotten tooth, or someone got salvation than you think you made it rain, but I guess we look for God's presence these days wherever we can find it. The old indians could make it rain as well, so thats really nothing special.

Derick:
I haven't heard you give any Testimonys of what God is doing in your life ref the above statement.
Must be that Dead-Zone you are in ?
We here in Western Ohio don't have much discernment, just Child like faith in Gods Word.Our little group of 50-60 people
never even heard of FA an or the Glory Barn beside myself.....we are so dumb....we believe, that if the car breaks down we
can lay hands on the thing to make it run ....we believe that God will protect us from storm damage & keep that 60 foot tree
from falling on the house....we believe that God has given us the power To heal the sick........We even believe that God wants
us to share Dreams & Vision given in the night......to speak in tongues.....and to tell the sum of the matter........We have people
stand up every week an share the Wonders of God in their lives......... Cancers healed, Knees restored,Back pain gone,
Salvation of family members,protection from car crashes,God providing- food,clothing,money to pay bills.People sharing
how The Word of God is changing lives an drawing then closer to Jesus.

Derick wrote:
Anybody with any discernment knows that we are in dead-zone now with precious few clues to God's power in the world. Its my opinion that its a time to quietly stand and wait, but I think I have the mind of the Lord.

Derick:
Sorry about that Dead Zone you are in.......We'll bring that before the Body in prayer, the next time we meet.
Sorry, I can't be quiet either......got to much to share.....Gods Word !
Wait ? Nope !!!!!!
I must be about my Fathers business !
I KNOW I HAVE THE MIND OF THE LORD ON THAT !


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1231 is a reply to message #1226] Sat, 16 February 2008 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bless you Believer for the excellent way that you handled the criticism leveled at you. It was truelly and example of the Love of Christ and the way that He responded if He responded at all and that was with love. We are hungry for examples of faith in action and The faithfullnes of The Lord to honor faith. Sadly when testimonies are posted there is for one thing, a lack of praise to the Lord and secondly it is most often met with what you experienced.
If any body should by now have praise reports it should be the people who received the teachings we received. I to am saddened by a lot of the postings on this site. Forgive me Moulder but some times I think the site doesnt live up to the name "Overcomers on line".Believer please stick around and bless us with your testimonies. The Lord continue to bless you.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1232 is a reply to message #830] Sat, 16 February 2008 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I'm going to be ill. Oh wait, thats a bad confession.

Y'all can hold hands and sing cum baya if you want, but the only thing heading our way in America is judgement, not showers of blessings and pink fuzzy bunny rabbits of joy.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1233 is a reply to message #1232] Sat, 16 February 2008 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick, are you going to run away an not play with us any more ?


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1234 is a reply to message #1233] Sat, 16 February 2008 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ha! Nope I'm afraid you are stuck with me.

However, I guess you have realized by now that I'm not your average bear. The point that a lot of folks miss is that we all have different giftings and ways of seeing the truth. No one gift is more valuable than the other. All are necessary for the growth of the body.

Its hypocritical to "attack" me because I have a different view of things that don't line up with the party line. God took me in a certain path and showed me certain things, fitting and forming me for His purposes as he has all of you.

I never "attacked" beleiver, but I've heard so many of those kinds of "testimonies" in my life, which may or may not be God, but could just be the natural weather pattern, ect. but Believer has to make a point of telling us that hes controlling the heavenlies... ai carumba! Sorry for the rant.

JWBTI so you have a nice little church of 50-60 people? Thats nice. So in reality its maybe 30 that attend for real and out of the 30 theres 4 heads of household with their women and the rest are children. Pretty close? Don't think I know all about it? Oh I forgot the 2 chronically single girls that are believing for husbands and the one divorced brother that is believing for restoration of his marraige.

Out of the 4 men in the church how many will go to deaths door in a trial of faith? Maybe one? You?

Got the five-fold ministry working in your assembly? No I don't think so. Maybe you have a real pastor if you are fortunate, but more likely is some poor brother that knows a smidgen more about The Word than the rest, but does not have a true calling.

I'll pray for you and yours Brother, because you are in the dead-zone as well and don't have the sense to know it. But maybe when you are all together in the same room making the same noise you can make yourself believe that God is moving in your midst.

Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1236 is a reply to message #1234] Sat, 16 February 2008 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick,I'am glad you're staying.
I need all the prayers an help I can get.
Next time ya stop by the Fellowship, at least introduce yourself so we know that you where there.
Thanks Brother.

Got any Testimonies for us today ?


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1237 is a reply to message #1236] Sat, 16 February 2008 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JWBTI wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 21:58

Derick,I'am glad you're staying.
I need all the prayers an help I can get.
Next time ya stop by the Fellowship, at least introduce yourself so we know that you where there.
Thanks Brother.

Got any Testimonies for us today ?


Don't be trite Ron. You wanna play cute christian go ahead, but don't play it with me.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1239 is a reply to message #1237] Sat, 16 February 2008 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick wrote:
God took me in a certain path and showed me certain things, fitting and forming me for His purposes as he has all of you.

Derick,
please tell us what that path an purpose is, so we might better understand you.

Is that being trite & cute ?


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1240 is a reply to message #1231] Sat, 16 February 2008 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can see God when He's working in my life and in others too and I know when His love and grace comes into my life and others too.Thanks to those for their encouraging words about my testimony of how God is working in my life. If we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and wickedness and rulers in the heavens then why is it so strange that the heavens can't be influenced by a believers prayer. All that counts to the Lord is that I saw his hand in looking after my needs and that I gave Him thanks for it. If Jesus could curse the fig tree and it withered then why can't I speak to the heavenlies and see God act and take control. Didn't He say we can cast a mountain into the sea. The point I was making was that God has given power in prayer and that I should use this power of prayer to pray for things as He leads me. If God doesn't answer my prayer then I am no better off than the unbelievers but thanks be to God that He cares for me and supplies all my need and wants me to see Him at work in my life and I do!
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1241 is a reply to message #1240] Sat, 16 February 2008 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Believer,
Thank you for sharing what God is doing today....Amen

1 Thes 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Hey! we used to sing that at Fa....good song !

Bro Ron


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Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1242 is a reply to message #1239] Sat, 16 February 2008 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JWBTI wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 22:30

Derick wrote:
God took me in a certain path and showed me certain things, fitting and forming me for His purposes as he has all of you.

Derick,
please tell us what that path an purpose is, so we might better understand you.

Is that being trite & cute ?


No this time you are being condescending. You remind me of those people who need to know right away what church you go to so they can pigeon-hole you immediately.

My path and purpose is my own, and just like a ministry it needs no explanation but should be evident by the signs that follow. If we were in fellowship I would be responsible to you, but online anyone can say anything.

Hey Believer! I'm sick of all the snow here... can you make it stop please? I'd appreciate it.

I think its approprate the Michael started this thread on the subject of quietness in the forum, but it ends with the subject of the quietness of God. There is a purose in His lack of presence in the world now. It is the quiet before the storm and the silence of the desert where manna is provided in measured doses but little more than judgement awaits.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1243 is a reply to message #1242] Sat, 16 February 2008 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From Luke 18:9-14, NIV [1]

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1244 is a reply to message #830] Sat, 16 February 2008 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Typical. Without comment throw some scripture at the discussion that does not even apply.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1245 is a reply to message #1244] Sat, 16 February 2008 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh I think verse 9 covers it quite well.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1246 is a reply to message #1245] Sat, 16 February 2008 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grandom wrote on Sat, 16 February 2008 10:45

Oh I think verse 9 covers it quite well.


Covers *what* quite well? Grow some cajones and say what you mean.

If you are aiming that scripture at me, you miss your mark by a mile. My confidence is in God and was grown in the garden of humility in the fire of trials.
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[quote title=Derick N. wrote on Sun, 17 February 2008 02:27][quote title=JWBTI wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 22:30]Derick wrote:

Hey Believer! I'm sick of all the snow here... can you make it stop please? I'd appreciate it.quote]

Hello Derick N,
I did say I'd pray about the heavenlies as the Lord leads. I'm not lead. Besides you use your faith for your need. Why are you mocking?
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1248 is a reply to message #1247] Sat, 16 February 2008 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=Believer wrote on Sat, 16 February 2008 13:23][quote title=Derick N. wrote on Sun, 17 February 2008 02:27]
JWBTI wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 22:30

Derick wrote:

Hey Believer! I'm sick of all the snow here... can you make it stop please? I'd appreciate it.quote]

Hello Derick N,
I did say I'd pray about the heavenlies as the Lord leads. I'm not lead. Besides you use your faith for your need. Why are you mocking?

Why are you bragging?

You are new here and within 2 posts you are telling us about controlling the heavenlies. I thought it was in poor taste.

I read all kinds of silliness on the web and I tire of it.
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Derrick N,
I'm sharing God's caring hand in my life to meet my needs. Isn't that what we are called to do. To proclaim how God has worked in our lives. Is that what you call bragging? Then if that's what you mean then I'll use your words - I'm bragging about what God has done for me. I might be new to the site but does that really matter? We are certainly encouraged in the Word to test all things and see if it be of God and it's good to question to see if something is of God. I do it all the time but not so harshly nor to offend my brother. Didn't Jesus himself say not to offend one of these little ones. I'm a child of God and you came very close to doing that but some kind words from Moulder and others assited me to stay and chat. Does it bother you that God isn't quiet here for me? If God has shown you things about judgment and that there is a quiet before the storm.Who am I'm to ridicule you for that. Time will tell if what you have been shown is of God or not. Many will prophesy, see visions, speak in tonques but the Lord will say get away from me for I never knew you. I have prophesied, I speak in tongues so I qualify that part of scripture therefore I had better know Him otherwise I might fit the otherside of the admonition. I'm searching to know my God and if that means He moves the heavenlies to show He's with me then I praise Him for that.
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To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else.

How much plainer can I make it. By the way, Did you actually see Indians causing it to rain??? Or did it happen in a John Wayne movie? And yet you question a sister that believes in the promises of God. Oh and now we need seniority on the net to offer a testimony. The truth. You cant handle the trutn.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1251 is a reply to message #1250] Sat, 16 February 2008 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Grandom, Thank you for your support. It made me smile. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. I have heard it explained that the words "shall follow" acutally mean to be persued as in chase after from behind. That's what is chasing me. Praise God it's His goodness, His mercy. Not his judgement, not His condemnation. Yes He chassens but He doesn't judge me that was done at the cross with the Blood of Jesus. How wonderful to be in right standing with God now. I ask if we are children of God then why would we need mercy to follow us? Perhaps because we aren't perfect yet and God knows that. Oh the wonder, oh the love of God. It's so good to be in His wonderful presence and to speak with other people that are His. Where two or more are gathered in His name there He is in the midst. Even though we are on line I believe Jesus is with us.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1252 is a reply to message #1251] Sat, 16 February 2008 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick wrote:

No this time you are being condescending. You remind me of those people who need to know right away what church you go to so they can pigeon-hole you immediately.

My path and purpose is my own, and just like a ministry it needs no explanation but should be evident by the signs that follow. If we were in fellowship I would be responsible to you, but online anyone can say anything.

Derick:

Thats what I've been asking:

What signs?

Please share them with us....Please....Please....Please


Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1253 is a reply to message #1250] Sat, 16 February 2008 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grandom wrote on Sat, 16 February 2008 14:10


To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else.


Are you talking about yourself? The manner and fashion that you are looking down and degrading my opinion?

grandom wrote on Sat, 16 February 2008 14:10


By the way, Did you actually see Indians causing it to rain??? Or did it happen in a John Wayne movie?


Actually I just finished 4 years of ministry to a Native tribe in the midwest, and battled spiritual witchcraft from medicine lodge members who oppose the gospel. I've been threatened physically and spiritually many times, and seen the power of the enemy first hand, so no I did not learn from a John Wayne movie.

grandom wrote on Sat, 16 February 2008 14:10


And yet you question a sister that believes in the promises of God. Oh and now we need seniority on the net to offer a testimony. The truth. You cant handle the trutn.


What little "truth" are you talking about? God can make it rain? Duh... thats why we call him God. Tell me something I don't know. But don't tell me you can "control the heavenlies". Thats a pure delusion.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1254 is a reply to message #1234] Sat, 16 February 2008 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick N. wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 20:25



JWBTI so you have a nice little church of 50-60 people? Thats nice. So in reality its maybe 30 that attend for real and out of the 30 theres 4 heads of household with their women and the rest are children. Pretty close? Don't think I know all about it? Oh I forgot the 2 chronically single girls that are believing for husbands and the one divorced brother that is believing for restoration of his marraige.

Out of the 4 men in the church how many will go to deaths door in a trial of faith? Maybe one? You?

Got the five-fold ministry working in your assembly? No I don't think so. Maybe you have a real pastor if you are fortunate, but more likely is some poor brother that knows a smidgen more about The Word than the rest, but does not have a true calling.

I'll pray for you and yours Brother, because you are in the dead-zone as well and don't have the sense to know it. But maybe when you are all together in the same room making the same noise you can make yourself believe that God is moving in your midst.




Ron, you go ahead and address this post, and then I will tell you something. Just don't tell me you are the "Pastor".

The biggest problem with you all is you don't know how lost and miserable you are. We are truly the Laodecean church, rich in material things but poor in His Presence. I mean the real moveof the Spirit, not the namby pamby stuff that passes for the anointing these days.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1255 is a reply to message #1254] Sat, 16 February 2008 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick:
I spoke the truth an you called me a liar.

You said:
Out of the 4 men in the church how many will go to deaths door in a trial of faith? Maybe one? You?

Derick:
Ya got part of that right....I've been there !

Derick said:
Ron, you go ahead and address this post, and then I will tell you something. Just don't tell me you are the "Pastor".

Nope! Not the Pastor....Not my calling.

Derick wrote:
The biggest problem with you all is you don't know how lost and miserable you are.


WANT ADD:
Seeking five-fold ministry to work in our assembly.
Please reply via E-Mail
JWBTI@OVERCOMERSONLINE.COM

Ok now ! Tell me something.





Ron
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1256 is a reply to message #1253] Sat, 16 February 2008 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick

Luke6:41

Oh yes thats right. You dont like to look at scripture.

So you spent 4 years with a tribe. Still didnt answer my question. Did you see the indians produce rain.

You accuse us of being lost and yet we look down on you? Rev12:10. At least you cant accuse us day and night
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1257 is a reply to message #1256] Sun, 17 February 2008 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grandom wrote on Sat, 16 February 2008 17:55

Derick

Luke6:41

Oh yes thats right. You dont like to look at scripture.

So you spent 4 years with a tribe. Still didnt answer my question. Did you see the indians produce rain.

You accuse us of being lost and yet we look down on you? Rev12:10. At least you cant accuse us day and night


You don't need an accuser to prove you are stupid.

Ron, I don't get your post. Learn how to multi-quote will you? I can't tell your answers form my statements.
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1259 is a reply to message #1257] Sun, 17 February 2008 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derick

2 John 1:3
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

You are absolutely right. I am stupid. But didn't the scripture say that the weak despised the base are called. I plead guilty to all. I pray that the Lord will deliver you from the spirit of bitterness that you have displayed on this forum. I wont call you by any names as you have done. I don't think that is proper to do since we are created in His image. Besides
John 13:35
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Romans 14:19
Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

May The Lord Bless you
Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1260 is a reply to message #1259] Sun, 17 February 2008 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Glad I could help you out Grandom.

Now you can feel all merciful and self-righteous for forgiving my persecution of you as an "accuser of the brethren".

I'm not bitter at all, I just don't like BS.
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