| How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1182] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 11:33  |
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I was told at one time there where over 60 ministers going out from FA to minister to local assemblies, and many ministers going to more than one. Many bodies that considered themselves affiliated with FA with their own local ministers. So how many bodies do you know of?
Heres my quick list:
FA (of coarse), Lafayette, Indy=Tom Hamilton/then Steve Hill/then Jeff Barnette, Zion Lake/North Vernon, Bloomington, GreenCastle, Mitchell (bet you didn't know about that one).
Other states: Shelbyville, KY; Columbus, OH and another near Kent State;
I don't know where in AL Jim Oswalt had a church, Bobby Freeman had another in AL, Rusty Tardo in Aribi, LA and Robert Ellender in Lakeport, LA.
I'll probably think of a dozen more at work today.
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1184 is a reply to message #1182] |
Sat, 09 February 2008 16:34  |
 Mark L
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We had 2 ministers coming up from FA to Canada (Kitchener area). Eventually one moved up here. The one who moved up here had a meeting in North Bay as well. It all fell apart after Freeman passed on. Currently there are still several of us still interested and on tape ministries.
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”
G.K. Chesterton
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1205 is a reply to message #1204] |
Tue, 12 February 2008 22:26 |
Mark L
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Jerry Eccles did move up here. He moved back to Indiana about 1985. I think he is currently living around Warsaw somewhere
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”
G.K. Chesterton
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1214 is a reply to message #1212] |
Wed, 13 February 2008 15:58 |
Derick N.
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I hear you Brother. With all the teaching about not laying on hands, you would think Doctor Freeman would have not allowed it. Who knows, eh?
I also agree with you that not many "truly" believed the message, but were there for varied reasons. At the time I thought everyone was in tune, but looking back on it now, I see the flies in the ointment.
My life got kind of crapped up afterwards, but no matter how messy it got, I never doubted God's Word. I still have that incorruptible faith living in me, waiting and watching for God's next move.
[Updated on: Wed, 13 February 2008 15:58]
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1706 is a reply to message #1647] |
Sun, 27 April 2008 22:08 |
james
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Jim Oswalt had a group of about 10 near Tulsa, Ok. and the body in Birmingham, Al had 30 or so; Bobby Freeman had a group of believers in Auburn, Al. of 35-40 and is still faithfully ministering Gods Word there in a Bible church; Clanton, Al had a body of 60-70 at one point pastored by Tommy Shelton. To my knowledge, only Bobby is still faithful to the calling God placed upon his life. Here is a quote from Bobby Freeman in 1985, "Outward energies will dwindle, if inward fires are not kindled", how true...Peace and Grace to you brother.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1712 is a reply to message #1711] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 11:31 |
capturedbygrace
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Hi, Michael. Yes, I recall him. He lived somewhere near FA, and taught there at times. His wife's name was Agnes, I believe. I really enjoyed them. If I'm not mistaken (it can happen!) Agnes was ill with cancer for some time. I think, but am not positive that she's with the Lord now (not questioning her salvation!). I'm not sure how to spell his name either, but it's something like Micheler. Does anyone know his whereabouts and how he's doing?
While we're talking, what's happening with Jim and Lynn Mansfield? The only minister I still keep (yearly) track of are Bill and Bev Garner.
[Updated on: Mon, 28 April 2008 11:37]
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1715 is a reply to message #1713] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 14:57 |
capturedbygrace
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I would like to have known them better. They seemed like such a gentle, compassionate couple. I remember his smile would light up his whole face... . Thanks for the information--do you know where he is since and how he's doing?
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1717 is a reply to message #1716] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 16:58 |
Michael The Disciple
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I came up for a visit from our Church (not FA)with another brother the night I saw him. We sat on the front row as he taught on "excuses" from the book of Luke. It was like we were absorbing every word. Like it was drawing us in.
After the meeting we walked to the car and sat down. We looked at each other and both of us burst into holy laughter. We laughed so hard we could barely get out of the parking lot.
It must have went for at least 30 minutes before it began to subside. Thats why he holds a place in my heart.
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1719 is a reply to message #1717] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 19:13 |
capturedbygrace
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Neat--speaking of holy laughter, what did it do for you, brother? It has been a cleansing, strength-giving thing for me a time or two, and one other time it was very different. I was waging heavy warfare in that season, and it seemed so different that I asked the Lord about it. He gave me Ps 2:4 later, and said He was laughing at His enemies that I was in battle over. Later that week both a major internal and external breakthrough happened.
Br. Garner is still in Warsaw. He still has a small home meeting that he's had for over 20 years, and in fact had much if not most of the time they were at FA. He has been studying (for over 7 years) the Jewish perspective that adds balance to our westernized ways of thinking about the Word.- Lately the Lord seems to have brought that emphasis more to the forefront with some "students of the Word." I'm looking forward to seeing what the Holy Spirit is cooking up...
[Updated on: Tue, 29 April 2008 00:51]
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1723 is a reply to message #1722] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 11:11 |
capturedbygrace
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Thanks for sharing that Michael. I appreciate that holy laughter can free us from self--and give a new perspective and strength that stays even once the laughter stops...it is also humbling if it comes on you in a meeting and you're the first one it falls on out of the blue...at least you know you didn't work it up... 
I don't know if Br Bill uses the name Yeshua in everyday language. brother--and (here's my "unique" sense of humor again) even though I haven't been to their small meeting or visited in person for at least 15 years, I just know he doesn't wear a yarmulke--that would be overidentification!  We've talked a little on the phone and as of this past February, I sensed (as is true in my life as well) a sense of anticipation that I hadn't in a long time... . As far as I know, he doesn't have a website, but I'll try and check.
[Updated on: Tue, 29 April 2008 12:35]
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1724 is a reply to message #1723] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 15:19 |
Mark L
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As of a yr or two ago Jim Mansfield was still living where he always did (can't remember the name of the town). He is still walking with the Lord although no longer in word ministry. I don't know how he would phrase it but he no longer walks in the faith message and goes to a vineyard church. He is selling some kind of herbal stuff and financialy speaking doing quite well at it.
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.”
G.K. Chesterton
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1725 is a reply to message #1724] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 16:51 |
capturedbygrace
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Thanks, Hardbones. The town I remember was Leesburg. Are he and Lynn still married? And I wonder how their children are faring?
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1728 is a reply to message #1719] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 17:34 |
tomax7
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Bill Gardner?
I stayed at his place a loooong time ago. Have a picture of him standing beside his old coal stove.
If anyone see's him, say hi from Tom Canada.
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1729 is a reply to message #1728] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 18:46 |
capturedbygrace
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Okay, brother, I will. (I've got a message to him now asking if he has a website.)
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #1730 is a reply to message #1726] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 19:33 |
capturedbygrace
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I knew Greg and Jan Smith. Their friendship was a real help to me during my time at FA. He went back down (years ago) near Shelbyville, KY. Our guys and I got to visit once. They lived in an old converted school in the "hills of Kentucky." I would like to know how they are faring as well. I do know some of their daughters went on missions trips-one to Peru, and one to ??? with Ron Luce's Teen Mania... . Last I knew (again, this was years ago) Jan was teaching at a Christian school and Greg was working and back at school for ???.
That reminds me of Terry and Brenda Grabow...remember them? They moved to Michigan, and went to minister over in Ukraine for at least two years. They live in a converted Amish house on the top of a beautiful hill overlooking a valley, and raise their own animals for meat...Terry sold his half of his CPA practice so he could purchase their house outright (I went to see them once also).
Broken vessel in training: Pressing on to experience the fullness of Acts 17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being...
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #2824 is a reply to message #2823] |
Mon, 18 August 2008 16:03 |
tomax7
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...hey speaking of church planting in Russia. If people want to support a ministry presently working in Russia/Ukraine and elsewhere, why not pray/support Tony Abram? I've been friends with him for a number of years and he walks the faith walk with grace.
www.abundantlifecrusades.com or tonyabram.com
He's established a lot of churches (and they don't have his name on the ministry), set up a lot of pastors who are still going, as well seen literally thousands come to the Lord in his crusades.
I'd say he's pretty close to being a modern day apostle by his actions, and don't get yer hackles up, I said pretty close (but I wouldn't be surprised).
He's a humble man with 45 years worth of ministry that can fill a book. It is the Lord that sustains him and his wife - one week he'll be in South Africa, the next in Japan, the next in Ukraine.
Here is a challenge to everyone here. Tony buys houses by faith in the Ukraine and Russia and then turns around and gives them to the local church to meet in.
Why not help sponsor a house, or buy one? Check his 'goodnews' section for the houses. Below is one of the pages.
http://www.abundantlifecrusades.com/goodnews/2007-house131.h tm
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Remember to Smile! God loves you!
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| Re: How Many Assemblies/Bodies Where There? [message #3011 is a reply to message #1182] |
Tue, 26 August 2008 00:02 |
james
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Hey Alanbook,
Welcome to OvercomersOnline, you are so right about problems. The church is made up of people,
and people have problems. But that's one of the ministries of the church, teaching people how to overcome their problems through Jesus.
Maybe you can share some testimonies from your experiences in Russia sometime.
Again, glad to have you,
james
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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