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Guns [message #9272] Sat, 19 January 2013 06:05 Go to next message
Gary  is currently offline Gary
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Some heated emotions going on at Andrew Stroms site on the subject of "Do Christians love guns"?

When certain articles are discussed over there you get a world view of things. Especially when you see Christians from all over the world and around the United States sharing their opinions on what they believe about certain subjects. I find it quite interesting to see the mindset of American Christians which seems to differ from the rest of the world.

I am surprised at the amount of Christians who say they would use a gun to defend their wife and children.

After reading most of the comments I thought about the NT church which was thrown to the lions, some crucified, driven from their homes, etc., I do not remember reading anywhere in history that the early church took up arms to defend themselves.

Things sure have changed since the first three centuries of Christianity!






Re: Guns [message #9280 is a reply to message #9272 ] Mon, 21 January 2013 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alanbook wrote on Sat, 19 January 2013 06:05

I am surprised at the amount of Christians who say they would use a gun to defend their wife and children.



Frankly, I'm surprised when I encounter a Christian who believes in, and practices, nonresistance. Andrew takes a lot of grief and harsh words from people here in this country who claim to be christian. The fruit produced is always the true way to identify a tree. Satan has decieved SO many in this nation with a blend of patriotism(the flag, military,constitution/'rights'); false doctrines in the institutional religious system (the belief that America is God's chosen nation and that we are a 'christian' nation, that christians should be involved politics,ect.); and a deeply rooted fear that results in the fact that so many can't seem to get enough guns and ammo to protect themselves.


"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
Re: Guns [message #9301 is a reply to message #9280 ] Fri, 25 January 2013 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Satan has decieved SO many in this nation with a blend of patriotism(the flag, military,constitution/'rights'); false doctrines in the institutional religious system


After reading those articles on the civil war in America, it almost sounds like people are promoting the kingdom of america rather then the Kingdom of God.

You would think most of those people had never heard the sermon on the mount. I guess I should not be surprised how little of the Bible most Christians know.

It appears that most of the Christians who lack this knowledge of God's Word are from America.

Titus 1:9

Gary

P.S. I like this feature when you move your mouse over the scripture it opens up the verse so you can read it. It's a little easier to read in the lighted box. Nice job William, I just realized it was on the board.





Re: Guns [message #11345 is a reply to message #9301 ] Fri, 26 September 2014 15:35 Go to previous message
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I saw a clip on telivision today advertising a movie about guns and violence where a guy makes this statement:

"Gun control.....is using two hands."


I think that would pretty accurately depict the mindset of lots of people in this country, including many professing Christians.

Nothing like those "god given rights" of American citizens....sleep with who you want; marry who you want; kill the babies you don't want; worship and obey who you want; and shoot anyone treading upon those 'rights'.

I'm sure if Paul was writing instructions to the church of today in our 'modern culture' he would include a Glock 9 mm in the armour of God...after all he was talking about warfare and Peter did use a sword to defend Jesus.

"Things sure have changed since the first three centuries of Christianity!" Yes, they have!


"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."
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