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The Global Government [message #10484] Tue, 03 December 2013 17:22 Go to next message
Marilyn Crow  is currently offline Marilyn Crow
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Gary,

You were asking for scriptures concerning the False Prophet being the executor of the Global Government.

I will write some notes from my uncles book on this.

THE RELIGIOUS ECONOMIST.

Simultaneously with the Antichrist becoming the absolute political dictator of the world; his potent associate will join him in centre stage. He will be equally dynamic & powerful in his own sphere; will exhibit the same scintillating personality & oratorical prowess (Rev. 13: 11 - 12)


This second Beast will have two horns. In Biblical symbology, horns invariably denote power, authority & dominion. However unlike the Antichrist, the horns are not crowned. Consequently these do not represent political sovereignty. Although apparently lamb-like & inoffensive, in reality there is still the same beastly order, & the same satanic authority & motivation. He will exercise all the dominion of the Antichrist, & will be the executive administrator of the operation.


There are, however delineated specific distinctive functions that distinguish his particular realm of jurisdiction in the satanic hierarchy. The two horns indicate he will have `dually,` - complete economic control of the world system, & will wield full religious authority. (Rev. 13: 11 - 18) The religious element is one of the most powerful in humanity & so appears in all the history of mankind. In confirmation of the latter office, he is characteristically designated the `False Prophet.` (Rev. 19: 20)



(My uncle, Alistair Gardiner, now over 90 is a recognised Apostle in the Apostolic movement, & has been the President of that movement in the `60`s. Even today the leaders of that movement still come to him for guidance is some matters. Perhaps I can write a bit at a time of what he says.)













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Re: The Global Government [message #10494 is a reply to message #10484 ] Tue, 03 December 2013 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Marylin,

Modern day apostles are one of my interests.

Could you provide what info you can about his testimony so Mr. Gardiner can be validated
along the lines of Rev 2:2

Any publicatons available of his writings or sermons?







Jman





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At the time of this post . . .

FA, the satellites, the spinoffs,and the FA diaspora have been having church
without apostles for 41 years and 337 days.
Initial start date 1/1/72


Recommended: No faith stands that strongly impact our (our children's) lives until we figure out
why the signs and wonders are missing. Something is wrong.









Re: The Global Government [message #10495 is a reply to message #10484 ] Tue, 03 December 2013 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Marylin,

I googled and found enough info at

http://www.connectmagazine.com.au/?p=2873

so I am all set. No need to post.


Jman






Re: The Global Government [message #10496 is a reply to message #10494 ] Tue, 03 December 2013 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes Jman,

I will gladly look into it & get the relevant info. I see you have already gone to the Apostolic Connect magazine. And you found a story of Pastor Ray Martin & it also mentions my uncle, Alistair Gardiner (Apostle). So that would be helpful to you Jman.

In the Australian Impact, (the previous Apostolic magazine) the Nov. 2003 edition, there is a two page article on my grandfather, Apostle Alexander Gardiner.

Marilyn.

[Updated on: Tue, 03 December 2013 23:42]


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Re: The Global Government [message #10503 is a reply to message #10496 ] Wed, 04 December 2013 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now this is interesting, it was written by William in 2006:

http://overcomersonline.com/FUDforum2/index.php?t=msg&th =47&start=0&S=bab8af9d34733d5e0f756b87b8504009

Gary



Re: The Global Government [message #10692 is a reply to message #10484 ] Sun, 29 December 2013 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marilyn Crow wrote on Tue, 03 December 2013 18:22

Gary,

You were asking for scriptures concerning the False Prophet being the executor of the Global Government.

I will write some notes from my uncles book on this.

THE RELIGIOUS ECONOMIST.

Simultaneously with the Antichrist becoming the absolute political dictator of the world; his potent associate will join him in centre stage. He will be equally dynamic & powerful in his own sphere; will exhibit the same scintillating personality & oratorical prowess (Rev. 13: 11 - 12)


This second Beast will have two horns. In Biblical symbology, horns invariably denote power, authority & dominion. However unlike the Antichrist, the horns are not crowned. Consequently these do not represent political sovereignty. Although apparently lamb-like & inoffensive, in reality there is still the same beastly order, & the same satanic authority & motivation. He will exercise all the dominion of the Antichrist, & will be the executive administrator of the operation.


There are, however delineated specific distinctive functions that distinguish his particular realm of jurisdiction in the satanic hierarchy. The two horns indicate he will have `dually,` - complete economic control of the world system, & will wield full religious authority. (Rev. 13: 11 - 18) The religious element is one of the most powerful in humanity & so appears in all the history of mankind. In confirmation of the latter office, he is characteristically designated the `False Prophet.` (Rev. 19: 20)



(My uncle, Alistair Gardiner, now over 90 is a recognised Apostle in the Apostolic movement, & has been the President of that movement in the `60`s. Even today the leaders of that movement still come to him for guidance is some matters. Perhaps I can write a bit at a time of what he says.)



I must admit everything your uncle states on this page is very Biblically based and sound. I wished they had not taken his book out of print.

There is probably a slim chance any of these books made it to America, if they did we do have a lot of used book stores with large sections on Christianity, at least in our area we do. I might try to see if I could find one in one of these stores.

I just tried to google it on the internet and came up with nothing.

Marilyn I wished you could scan the book on your printer and send it to a word document file then upload it here or provide a link.

Gary





Re: The Global Government [message #10832 is a reply to message #10692 ] Thu, 20 February 2014 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was thinking this morning if there is a One World Money system that does not have a need for cash why all the talk concerning the Euro dollar?

Maybe there will be times when cash is used.

But if they use direct deposit from their place of employment, pay all their bills through the internet, buy or sale anything from an embedded chip that is connected to their bank accounts, why would society need cash?

Did you realize you can go into any store now or restaurant and pay with your smart phone. I know a man who takes a picture of his check and sends it through his smart phone to his bank account.

Very convenient and everyone who uses it rants and raves how they love it, so much easier and saves time with no trips to the bank.

Again if were calling it a cashless society why all the concern over the Euro?

Every year its growing in popularity, too make purchasing items over the internet, as becoming the only way to shop. With gas so expensive, you don't have to fight the crowds, free shipping, this is how many want to make purchases. In other areas you can even order a meal out, over the internet.

With all the technology, a cashless society appears to be getting us closer to this one world money system, a.k.a. "cashless society".

















Re: The Global Government [message #10833 is a reply to message #10832 ] Thu, 20 February 2014 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gary,

Just a few thoughts. At the moment, as you so rightly said, people just pay their bills, buy & sell etc electronically, however the value of that digit is based on the value of the American dollar & their currency in relation to that.

At the moment the American dollar is the defacto currency of the world due to its position after World war 2 when it was not as in debt as the other countries. Soon, (a couple of years) I believe the Euro will rise to be the bench peg of currencies. Even though cash will eventually not be accepted, there has to be a value to that financial transaction.

What we are seeing is a gradual, step by step indebtedness to the banks till they have such power as to control country`s expenditure, re: Greece.

Also be prepared for `bail-ins,`(people `in` the bank paying for its losses) & for the bank receiving your money & telling you in return, you now own shares in it & that is what you exchange with each other instead of currency.

More & more our life & daily living are to be centred on Him. Marilyn.





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Re: The Global Government [message #10835 is a reply to message #10833 ] Fri, 21 February 2014 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marilyn Wrote:
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More & more our life & daily living are to be centred on Him. Marilyn.


The American dollar has lost a lot of its value. It seems every time something happens in the world the prices of gas, food, bills, etc. increase. The dollar has lost a lot of its value and it appears the government is doing nothing to stop it from going downhill.

We knew it had to happen eventually and that is America would fade out of the picture as a world player.

Walking close to God like Enoch, is the only thing in this hour that will "keep and preserve us" from all the deception and evil moving across the world. There's no turning back the clock now.

In Him,
Gary





Re: The Global Government [message #10841 is a reply to message #10835 ] Sat, 22 February 2014 09:08 Go to previous message
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I must say one thing here, if you watch what is going on in the news it seems like there is unrest in over half of the world out there. All these people protesting and all the violence seems unending.

It sure looks like the Antichrist will have no problem coming on the world scene with all the answers for mankind.

Concerning the 10 common market nations. I did find it interesting that one of the nations coming against the Antichrist was Cyprus.

Quote:

6.Daniel 11:30
For ships from Cyprus shall come against him; therefore he shall be grieved, and return in rage against the holy covenant, and do damage. “So he shall return and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant.


Quote:

Cyprus is the third largest and third most populous island in the Mediterranean, and a member state of the European Union. It is located east of Greece, south of Turkey, west of Syria and Lebanon, northwest of Israel and north of Egypt.


It does not make sense that if the Antichrist was heading up the EU that one of the nations would become a rogue nation by itself attacking him. Cyprus is part of the EU.

The history of Cyprus is very interesting as it has always been a strategic location in the Mideast. But we see them attacking the Antichrist.








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