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Why I Believe In The Post Tribulation Rapture [message #787]

Sat, 06 October 2007 14:16

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Michael The Disciple
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After The Trib

It is time to make this truth clear. Please follow the scriptures.

10: That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
Phil. 1:10

6: Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: Phil. 1:6

16: Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain. Phil. 2:16

7: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8: Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Cor. 1:7

1: But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2: For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1 Thess 5:1-2

14: As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus. 2 Cor. 1:14

10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10

Notice friends that there are seven portions of scripture here that refer to the Lords coming. All of them contain the phrase Day of Christ or Day of the Lord. This is clearly the same day BECAUSE:

36: Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:36

The same one is both Lord and Christ. The day of Christ is therefore the day of the Lord. With that in mind:

1: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2: That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4: Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5: Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 2 Thess. 2:1-5

The Apostle Paul says very forcefully the day of the Lord Jesus Christ will NOT COME until after a falling away and the man of sin is revealed. Where is he getting this teaching from?

8: All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9: Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10: And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11: And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12: And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13: But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23: Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25: Behold, I have told you before.
26: Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27: For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28: For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31: And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Thats right! Matt. 24. Verses 10-12 shows the falling away.
Verse 15 shows the man of sin revealed.
Verse 31 shows the GATHERING TOGETHER of the elect. Is this the same thing Paul is talking about in 2 Thess. chapter 2?

Now I beseech you brethren by THE COMING of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto him:
2 Thess. 2:1

Yes it is very clear that Paul refers to Matt. 24 in his doctrine of the gathering of the saints...."rapture".

This was the only doctrine Paul taught concerning the second coming of Jesus. This alone would prove Paul did not envision a pre- trib rapture. But look at 2 Thessalonians 1 also, writing to the same people about the same event.

7: And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8: In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Thess 1:7

Paul believed when Jesus came it would be in FLAMING FIRE with MIGHTY ANGELS wrecking judgment on his enemies.
Does that sound like the pre trib scenario? They teach Christ will come alone, and take away the saints. Then over the next 7 years a group of new saints will get saved and face the man of sin.

Paul said REST WITH US WHEN THE LORD JESUS WILL BE REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS. IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON HIS ENEMIES.

REST WITH US.

Nothing about time to repent. Nothing about 7 more years. When Christ comes with his angels IT IS THE END.

Don't put off holiness thinking you can be saved after the pre trib rapture. Nothing could be farther from the truth. If you want to be saved in the end take serious heed to this word.

27: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
28: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
29: Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily. Col. 1:27-29

If you are alive in the end time you will go through the greatest tribulation ever known to man. We are called to be PERFECT at his coming. Also to endure all suffering unto the end. When our God and Saviour puts a crown of righteousness on your head and says 'Well done good and
faithful servant" YOU WILL BE GLAD YOU DID. peace, mike

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