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| instructions for overcomers [message #6718] |
Wed, 27 January 2010 17:34  |
 David Coleman
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I was led to open this topic for all to be blessed, there is a need for this topic because we care for the sheep jealously. I am thankful for this forum and how we can bless others with end time care.
The basis for the message is to reveal what the Lord has shown me concerning the manchild, in Rev.12:2.and 4. The manchild as some are fortunate to know are the overcomers. They shall come forth because they are ready and walking in the fullness of the Spirit.
Just before they get caught away, Rev.12:4 reveals the dragon will come against this manchild. It is a symbol concerning the Dragon, if a Dragon were literally to come I think that everybody saw it would automatically be saved. amen??
No the Dragon is already here, for we are living in the very last days. The reason for the symbolism is to show that the Dragon (devil) is going to work harder to devour the manchild. He is not swinging a literal tail, but continues to be working in secret, though he is very effective. Believe you me I'm not bragging on him.
I will show you what he is really doing. I am a watchman on the wall declaring to you, what he is doing. I am sounding the trumpet. Here is a little side of the message. A trumpet requires the wind in order to sound. amen?? the wind is the Spirit, he is called a rushing mighty wind at Pentecost. Then who are the trumpets?? 1Cor.14:8 If a trumpet gives a uncertain sound. There is the clue, the saints are the trumpets, and the Spirit (wind) give the sound, if it's not the Spirit it is flesh. That's when it becomes a uncertain sound.
I haven't got off the message I just was giving a extra thing that needed a little special attention. I'll show you why. There are uncertain trumpets in the camp. What camp are you talking about?? The camp has a name, it is called Charismatic. When something goes wrong in a Charismatic Assembly, all charismatics get the blame. That would include a local body or a group of bodies.
In a group of assemblies(bodies) they can get caught up together in a error, or even heresy. All Assemblies are tested as to whether they will listen to the Spirit or follow those who are in the flesh. Listen carefully please-- If you are of the manchild you will listen to the Spirit. It says in the word "if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect" Matt. 24:24.
Do you hear the dragon here?? He has been effectual, he is raising up those with false trumpets. They are not speaking by the Spirit but by the flesh. If you were to receive their message, wouldn't that be called devoured??
The manchild is called to be a watchman, in 1Cor.13: It tells us that without love we have no value. Meaning that to have all knowledge, know all mysteries, etc. without love we are of no effect.
This is what the Lord showed me. In prayer I went into travail, not holy laughter which is the very opposite. That is why it is rebellion because it is travail that you bring forth the righteousness of God. Laughter is to please the flesh. You'll note that Sarah laughed because she was shocked she could have a manchild, it goes on to say she lied or hid that she laughed. She was not condemned, for her error.
The Gideon's army will not condemn for their error. They are called to expose it. That's all. They are deliverers. We cannot deliver anyone that we don't love. Love is not a head thing,it must be the heart. We cannot love perfectly, so we love by the Holy Spirit in us. That is perfect love. Jesus called Judas Iscariot friend even when he kissed him and betrayed him. Peter also denied the Lord 3 times, Jesus prayed for Peter.
Therefore we can love our enemies, we do want to be Gideon's army amen?? I also was shown by the Lord that if we don't love we are breaking the greatest commandments. there are 2. love for God and also love for thy neighbor. James 2:8 shows us that love fulfils the royal law. What we have here is that we are not under the law, because we fulfil it by love. But if we have not genuine heart love, we break every commandment. Jesus fulfilled the law and it's demands for us.
1Jn.5:1-3 after you read these passages you will see that if we don't keep the 2 commandments of love God and neighbor, so as to fulfil all the law by faith, we have not God. With God there is no respecter of persons. **** all are included even ministry*** You see then that We must love from the heart all the saints, (not their error.) even our enemies. Matt.5:. love prays for the saints who are in error not roast them.
Love for the brethren exposes error, not roast the fallen brethren. remember in Corinthians how they prayed for the brother fallen into sin, they turned him over to the devil that he might be saved. That was love. Church discipline is in prayer and love that a brother will repent not fall from the faith. David said Lord deliver me from secret sin. For I want my faith to be alive and active even when I go through a trial. Instead of getting down begging God to forgive me my sins and all that to get a healing. etc.
I must move on, the Dragon is hidden subtle secret , he sometimes comes as a angel of light. Judas is a example of a angel of light. He will kiss Jesus and betray him. 1Tim. 4:1 tells us these will be perilous times, the love of many shall wax cold. they will betray and devour one another. I have been slandered by many in the past, so many I cannot count them on 10 fingers and 10 toes. I love and forgive them all.
All around us are a apostate Christians, also brethren who have missed the mark. 1Jn.5:16 We are Gideons army who love and pray for those who have not sinned a sin unto death. Apostates we don't pray for they have sinned thesin unto death. They have tasted of the good cup--of the well, but trampled the blood of Jesus under foot.Heb.6:4-5. So we see that the Dragon can appear at any time to devour the child as soon as it is brought forth.
the manchild is going to be the body of Christ, in it's fullness. All the members in one accord without spot wrinkle or blemish, this is only possible with God but with God all things are possible. He has shown me the possible of this. Joseph's brothers hated him for his dreams and saying God showed me this, Joseph's dreams never failed, he said you meant it for evil God meant it for good , he loved and forgave his brethren.
more to come this is very important message to the body.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6720 is a reply to message #6718] |
Thu, 28 January 2010 20:48  |
David Coleman
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I shall start with---Matt. 20:28 In my words, I came not to be ministered to but to minister.
Because I have crucified the flesh, I am here to bless not get blessed. That is why I am here today. Jesus has given me the Holy Spirit and like Jeremiah his word burns in my bones. My testimony is one of great displeasure to the Lord. I was raised a Christian, and the churches I was brought to never even preached the gospel.
They talked about political issues. The Lord saved me and cleaned me up and by the Holy Spirit, gave me a new life, old things are passed away and all things have become new. literally.
The love of God cries out through me. I remember the story of John the baptist. He was one crying out in the wilderness. Many thought he was a fool. The Lord gave him comfort and made it known in the scriptures that there was none like John the baptist. Matt.11:11. John was not looking for a following, he was just obeying the will of God. That is the thing that pleases God.
I want to thank the Lord publicly for a double deliverance yesterday. They were 2 healings which resulted in demon deliverance. One was a pain inside my eyes and the other was a nasal infection. both demons left my body with a loud noise, they were holding on for some time now. It was just faith and a command, no wrestle and toil. I was worshipping and loving Jesus. He also showed me forgiveness for some things where I fell short.
Please remember me in prayer as the Lord is leading me toward some special ministry. I want to thank Jesus and give him all the glory for those he uses who pray in tongues. They pray for the saints perfect prayers and they don't know what they are praying. The Lord shows me from time to time that those prayers are part of the reason why you keep getting special anointings of his presence. They are special and sometimes overwhelming, they even lead me into travail in the Spirit. That includes dreams and visions. Thanks and love to all, and glory to Jesus. Brodave.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6739 is a reply to message #6720] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 16:30 |
David Coleman
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In this end-time as we see that 1 Tim. 4:1 is unfolding, where there are many false Prophets and teachers rising up. In 2Th.2:2-3 we see in the last line in v.2 it says the day of Christ is at hand. Then in v. 3 it admonishes us that we should not let any man deceive us by any means, also that just before Jesus returns something must happen first. There shall be a great falling away. I shall show the basis for that statement.
Why will there be such a great falling away???
The Lord shows me a picture of something in the word to describe this. It is in Mark 8:32-34 Let me establish that Peter was beloved supremely by Jesus. Also later Peter becomes the one to be the spokesman for Pentecost. Jesus had told him before that upon this rock I will build my church.
Before all that happened we can see that it was important that Jesus rebukes Peter, for how could Peter do that perfect work he was called to do if he had a devil in him opposing Christ.
In Mark 8:33 That is a pretty intense statement. I think Jesus drove a point well for Peter to always remember. Remember what I said, Jesus loved Peter.
v.34 here is the key to the whole thing. Jesus tells them and us to, (in my words) if your going to follow Jesus you can't quit following Jesus. That is the great falling away. ---also to be on a cross is the death to the self life. You cannot come down off the cross. Remember how Jesus was on the cross?? They were telling him to come down since he said he was God's son.
If he didn't we can't either.
what happens if we do???
Then we can become against Jesus just like Peter was. There are all kinds of temptations out there in the world. If we get in the flesh (off the cross), our faith just doesn't seem to work, and we our then blinded in our minds, we don't seem to be casting down vain imaginations and everything that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. It says the god of this world blinds the minds of unbelievers. We can also be blinded when we get off the cross.
My beloved brother Peter, can you relate to that statement. yes I love Peter very much and I know one day I will see him. I don't worship him or pray to him. he's my fellow brother. I just love him as a faithful brother. I know he made a mistake, but Jesus can handle that he wasn't rebellious.
That sad part is some, or many fall away. They come off the cross and get blinded. One beloved brother I knew fell away, he had all the teachings of the word he bragged one time he had the whole council of God, and cheated on his wife and threw all the teachings in the garbage. He still goes to church and feels everything is okay between him and God.
Peter had Jesus and all the teachings but was still subject to temptation. He didn't know what he was saying to Jesus. He didn't know he had Satan.
lesson to learn. We all haven't arrived. We are subject to temptations. We must pursue full deliverance so we don't find ourselves fighting against Christ. we are like Peter in that we love Jesus. Matt. 26 Peter makes great statements that he won't deny Jesus. He was sincere. He wasn't lying. He didn't think he could betray Jesus. But that was because he had a love that must be matured. He had love but he needed stronger love.
We must see that the world has it's attractions, spiritually speaking we are the bride and a handsome man can come by and carry us away. But God is to be our only groom.
Remember Esau?? He counted his birth right as nothing so Jacob took it away from him.
Will we come down from the cross. And forget our first love.
shall we be covetous--which is idolatry, for the things of this world, and have Satan in us to stand against Christ?? I say this Then is the reason there shall be a great falling away in the endtimes. I pray that Jesus will help his people to see these things. this is not a popular message. But love brought Peter back. How much more in these last days.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6742 is a reply to message #6739] |
Fri, 05 February 2010 17:30 |
David Coleman
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I was in prayer this morning. Then as I was praying my prayers changed. It was then the Holy Spirit doing the praying. This is not something new to me , but just a thing I was sharing.
I draw the distinction, for this is a benefit for all Christians. It is difficult to pray. The word says the Spirit indeed is willing but the flesh is weak. That is the warning signal. We know we should pray, but we don't want to. That is frustrating indeed.
God doesn't want us to be frustrated. We know now as we see the day approaching that we need to pray now more than ever. Yet in the morning we find we are just not in the mood. I honestly say I'm not boasting, I'm just as guilty in the past.
You like people to love you. I do. I love you and want you to be blessed. I would not take a million dollars from the devil to with hold from you what I know will bless you. Now he says he will give a bunch of millions. I just say get thee behind me Satan, for you savor ,love the things of this world. I love my Jesus, so I overcome your temptations.
Now because I am loyal to Jesus, I obey and give what he has for you that will set you free. Free to love and want to pray.
As I was praying I was praying a lot of things. It was revealed to me that at other times I would pray and I was wondering why when I looked at the clock 3-4 hours passed by. They went by quickly. I would say Lord I realise that I have some chores to do. He didn't stop praying through me I had to stop him.
This may seem unusual to you, if you never heard it before.
Jesus has a passion to pray through us. The Spirit indeed is willing-- but the flesh is weak. we have to take ourselves by the collar and violently--pray. The kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent take it by force. Paul calls it I press for the prize of the high calling which is in Christ Jesus.
You see the devil doesn't want us to pray because he knows that when we pray in faith we got it. The flesh is his opportunity, he knows we are weak in the flesh. If we get in the Spirit, and pray, and we know we have the petitions we desire of God. That is real warfare.
Now what can we do??? If you have the answer, you will be set free. If you are reading and say that's just another sermon, well the flesh will remain weak. God in the O.T. commanded his people to do things. In the age of grace he asks us to. that is because the law said if you don't you die. Now we have the choice. we die. How do we die. We put the flesh to death and then we have life imparted. That is the law of the Spirit.
The devil cannot stand that so he says to a person you hear that, they are saying to you you are full of flesh. As soon as a person hears you say you need to crucify the flesh, do you know what they are saying??? The devil makes that statement sound ugly to the hearer because flesh is where he makes his home. Our body is where he tempts. It is subject to vanity. It is weak and he uses it to keep us from Jesus. Paul says I keep my body in subjection 1Cor.9:27 lest when I preach to others I should be a castaway.
That was Paul that said that. The man who is so great and awesome, why he can do no wrong. Paul knew that if he got in the flesh the danger that even he could be a castaway.
suppose for just a moment. What if Paul had become a castaway??
He would be a man who was a preacher of the whole council of God. He would be a man who knew mysteries, and had experiences supernaturally with God. He was the one who serpents could bite and he still live. He was stoned to death but resurrected again. He was blinded and able to see again. I could go on and on.
if he could preach to others then he wouldn't be a castaway to others(meaning it was not people who would cast him away, for he says when I preach to others) He was saying God would cast him away. could God do that?? a. there is no respect of persons with God. We have the Theology. we know it says the opposite of once saved always saved.
We are so blessed to have the understanding that we are elected unto salvation. We are so clear on that. but we forget that we must persevere. We have that feeling of how we are so special, we have the truth. We are special God gave us a revelation.
He loved us so much that he gave us all his special things. he gave us his bible. That is his word. but now we have responsibility. Paul says lest I be a castaway. We can lose our salvation. That is if we don't persevere. After the shock you get when you read this , look at Rom. 2:4-12. I will not write these passages out, you read them, I just want to say those passages are for me. It is for the Christian. As you study you will see it is directed to Christians. Fear of God in my estimation is a wonderful thing. I love those passages.
To summarize, Paul has it all. but he knows the responsibility of persevering. He doesn't have a self -righteousness, he knows he could give it up and be a castaway.
I heard a preacher once say , I have it all, the whole council and all the teaching of truth. A few months later he was shacking with a sister, and a woman overseas when he went there to preach. When he and I were on a jet traveling in ministry he tested me he said do you want a drink. we were in the first class department of the jet. If he saw I said yes we would have had alcohol.
He saw I was shocked and said we can have the drinks without the alcohol. I knew in my inner man he was meaning alcohol. But covered by saying without alcohol. I had no proof there. But I had the Holy Spirit. It was reported later that when he was shacking overseas. he was also drinking. He left the ministry, and said, I can't live a double life, so I resign. He threw his ministry in the garbage can notebooks and all. His wife told me all these things, they were confirmed.
To conclude. We can't afford to not be in prayer. We seem to want to but can't. I wasn't talking about tongues when I said God was praying through me. He speaks in my language, and my voice. I can't wait to pray, though I have things I must do. He says I just wait right here and you can talk to me as you go. I'll even bless the work of your hands.
I will wet your appetite, this is to inspire you to say I can't wait to pray and fellowship and commune with the Holy Spirit. The Lord told me, remember Daniel when he prayed and waited 21 days Dan.10:13 the Prince of the kingdom of Persia with stood me one and twenty days. but lo Michael. one of the chief Princes. read the rest. notice the angel Michael. There is another Gabriel. When the name has el in the end it means God.
That's why The Angel was the one who gave el to Jacob. You shall no longer be called Jacob, but you shall be called Isra--el. But then Jacob asks the messenger what is your name. He could have said El. but instead he says, it is secret. A word study on mystery will show you the word secret. He was saying to Jacob , my name is a mystery.
Later his name was only revealed, as Messiah, then before he went to the cross, they called him son of David have mercy on me. his name must remain a mystery because they wouldn't hang him on the cross. They didn't know he was the promised Messiah.
Some of this you know already. But did you know that what I told you reveals to you the answer to the question in a fresh new way to you that Jesus is the angel of the Lord. Now you know without a doubt, that it was Jesus pre-incarnate that Jacob put his arms around. Jacob have I loved, but Esau I have hated. Rom.9: I have received many things like this and for years. They are yours also. I love Jesus and by his grace I shall persevere to the end. He is the author and the finisher of my faith. Lord I reverently must stop now. love David.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6743 is a reply to message #6742] |
Fri, 05 February 2010 20:41 |
David Coleman
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I feel in me that there may be a few that need a clarification just to be sure. In the last post they may not see that the Angel was Jesus. Some will see it in the statement made that the Angel touched Jacob. They may not see what Michael had to do with it.
The fact that the Angel was called Michael is the key. Another angel is Gabriel. We can see that the Angel who is called it is a secret had a purpose to be hidden till the time that it was revealed to Israel. Unfortunately they rejected the name of Jesus also. The other names were not ever hidden yet they also were sent on a divine mission. They were servants. All angels are servants and are not to be worshipped.
Jacob worshipped the Angel of the Lord. He offered sacrifice there. He built a alter. He called it the house of God there. Later Israel would build God a house. But it was not big enough to hold God so the Lord said I will put my name there. Many know that the ark was a throne and that when the priests went in through the veil. God was sitting on the throne of the ark of glory. Now God literally sits on the throne of our hearts. We have his Holy Spirit.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6790 is a reply to message #6743] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 13:09 |
David Coleman
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In this last hour, you may find as you are walking in the Spirit, that it appears that all of the darkness is against you. You seem to be going through trials sometimes overwhelming. Seems like the closer to God you get the worse things seem to be getting.
Here is hope for you. You have all it takes to be a champion. Notice in the book of Daniel, 3 wonderful things that you may have not noticed. First-- The three boys said that God will deliver them. Then they said if not, we will not bow down to your gods. If you evaluate that statement you may have missed something. Dan.3:17 If it be so our God whom we serve.
The three boys wouldn't be on the way to the furnace if they weren't serving God. How can we serve a God who is not with us??? So you see God was with them as they were approaching the furnace. Add to that the one who was in the furnace was the same one who was with them before the furnace. Invisible that is.
second-- He was with them in the furnace. it was just like the burning bush that Moses saw. The bush wasn't consumed with fire. Also it was the same angel of the Lord that came aside from the bush that talked with Moses. Notice that the angel was with them in the furnace. That will be brought up later.
third-- When the boys came out of the furnace, God was with them invisible again. They were amazed that the boys were okay. As a Sunday school story, this is just entertainment for the kids. That's all. Entertainment is what Sunday school is all about. The children come away with a little story that they may remember but it is not really of any value to them.
If the story is so big a deal to tell it then it must have a meaning that is a big deal also. It can only bring life to those who have the Holy Spirit teach them it's value.
The reason why it is just another bible story is because, many think it will only apply if you are going to be thrown in a furnace. Or perhaps a related situation.
1 Pet.4:12-19 After you read these passages, you will see comments concerning them. The three boys didn't think it strange concerning the fiery trial they were facing. It isn't strange concerning the trial, it is that we know we must go through it, not knowing the results. When It is said results that means how the outcome will be as to how God will deliver.
The furnace is not the issue. The issue is why the fiery trial. The faith that is needed to go through the trial. The resignation of the three boys to say and if he doesn't deliver us, we will not bow down. 1Pet.4:19 here it is telling us if we are suffering according to the will of God, commit our souls--whole person-- to God.
The will of God was for them to go through the furnace. It doesn't look that way if you say, that was not God's will, that was martyrdom. It couldn't be that if they came out alive from the furnace. Only if they were consumed could it be that.
1Pet.4:14 God is glorified if the purpose of the trial is fulfilled. The three boys went through the fiery trial, then they came out and God was glorified. The whole world was watching. The world wasn't on their side when they were going to the furnace, but when they came out it was glorious.
summary--- What ever your trial may be, say healing for example. The world is watching. this is your fiery furnace. They will ask you before you trust God don't you want to get up off of your knees and bow down to our gods that are available to deliver you?? No we will go through the fiery furnace of the trial by faith and believe God to deliver us.
They will be angry and say, you are ignorant. God won't help you. that's not for today. etc. so off to the furnace of a trial you go. You have the Holy Spirit in you. Before the trial, in the trial, and after it. If you are in tune with God and walking uprightly, which you will note about Dan. and the three boys. They were men of integrity. Your going to see Jesus when your in the trial.
proof of this is that he is also called the comforter. He is not standing there beside you in the furnace, but he is in you. that is awesome. not talking about a religious idea here, but ultimate reality. Because he is in you then you should be able to fellowship with him. That includes a two way conversation. Jn.10 says my sheep know my voice.
So after the fiery furnace--your trial-- the world sees you and Jesus come out of that trial. God is glorified. They find they were wrong and say wow I want that. You are admired and they promote you in some way. If not in a way we think, but they estimate that God is with you. This can turn to their salvation. Even more so if they are close to you. I guarantee they are watching you.
unfortunately some are blinded by the god of this world. They didn't see when this one was raised from the death bed. Or when this one was cut almost in half and God delivered. But God will open the eyes of some. The bigger the trial the bigger the glory. God is faithful--amen and amen. your trial was designed to bring glory to God. not to defeat you. Talking about from God's side here. God bless.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6794 is a reply to message #6793] |
Tue, 16 February 2010 15:12 |
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Good to see that smile on your face as you face those trials, Dick!
We do need to be constantly reminded that everything, and that means
everything, is working for our good, and get this, even those times when
the trial turns out to be chastisement--this too is for our good!
In our bible study we just finished the book of Luke, but at the end we
departed from the verse-by-verse chronological method in order to look at
the various personalities that were present during the last hours of the
crucifixion.
Specifically we delved into the lives of the High Priest Caiaphas, Judas,
Pilate, Peter, Mary, and Thomas. There was an early prophecy in the book
of Luke where Simeon had intimated that many hearts would be revealed
because of this child-Jesus. With that prophecy in mind we sought to find
out the extent of its relevance with regards to those persons.
To condense seven weeks (seven persons) to one persistent truth: All had
sin in their lives, which oddly enough parallels our own experience
<grin>, but the only sins that had eternal consequences were the sins that
were "persisted in" e.g. Caiaphas, Judas; the other sins, you know, the
kind that we "turn from" had the desirable goal of working good in the
lives of those affected, e.g. Peter and Thomas.
Blessings,
William
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6796 is a reply to message #6793] |
Tue, 16 February 2010 16:36 |
james
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| grandom wrote on Tue, 16 February 2010 04:11 |
Wanna empty a church or silence a board. Speak on trials.
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Thankfully that doesn't apply here, my last three posts on the Bulletin Board were written about trials(as I was going through one)and our additudes concerning them.
It's great to see more brethren sharing on the board, welcome back Grandom.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6798 is a reply to message #6796] |
Tue, 16 February 2010 18:30 |
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I have been very blessed and encouraged with the wisdom that has been shared about trials. There is nothing like trials that show us where we are in our walk with the Lord, and where we need to shore up area's in our lives.
We have been blessed to see in God's word that trials and chastisements aren't for our hurt or destruction, but rather for our good, and teaching us to grow up in Christ. Looking back on various things I have experienced in my life makes it easier to know God is faithful, even when I may not understand at the present time what exactly is going on. Time after time I have seen the Lord faithful to provide all my needs and heal and deliver. 2Cor.1 is such a blessing, that shows us that the comfort we receive in various situations God will use, so we can comfort others in the same or similar situations.
Oh the depth and wisdom of God!
And I whole heartedly agree with James: welcome back Grandom!!!
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6800 is a reply to message #6798] |
Wed, 17 February 2010 14:42 |
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This message is presented in a question so as to cause some deep heart searching. Also it should cause a joyful response as many will enjoy answering the question.
To start off let's take a look at biblical history. Moses was a prophet. He knew that Israel had a discernment policy, They had a Theology of God and knew that they must test a Prophet. So Moses says, who shall I tell them sent me.
In this day and time, when you have mega conservative churches, also churches who don't believe Prophets exist today. If God sent a Prophet to them it would possibly be the same. They would question if he was a Prophet and also they may not allow him to give his message.
At the same time, when a man is popular with people even after knowing him a long time , if someone said he is a false Prophet, the people would separate that person from their company. They may say who are you to be calling this popular person a false Prophet.
why?? because they like the false Prophet and think he can do no wrong.
Here are a couple answers, desiring that others may have other answers to.************** He who knows the man is a false prophet can pray. But he may know the harm that will come till people come to see the man is a false prophet who he is talking about.
Also the one who knows the man is a false Prophet can expose him and bare the consequences. All his brethren may turn against him.
Here is the best answer that seems to fit. Seek the Lord, and remember that those who are not listening to the Holy Spirit in this hour, will suffer at the hands of sitting under a false Prophet. If the false Prophet fills the pulpit for one message then all are very blessed.
There are many false Prophets in this hour and they are not who you would think they are. There was one who came to FA a few years ago. his visit was short. He was a popular man, he was a member of the assembly in which one may see him operate. Now he is no longer with us.
So many people didn't know and cried tears over his departure. It was not a happy day for true discerning saints. For it grieves us all when a brother or sister departs from the faith. Some Christians rejoice when someone is cast into eternal darkness and say good for them. It is of good conviction that we remain those who love their enemies, even though we are very disturbed of a enemies wickedness. Moses loved Pharaoh, and desired that he would listen. He would have rejoiced to see Pharaoh say okay you all can go.
They rejoiced for their deliverance, but not for the death of Egypt. How can we love?? Jesus loved Judas. From Jesus side Judas did him a favor. He was sad that Judas must hang himself for Judas could have looked upon Calvary's cross and got forgiveness. He fulfilled the will of God. I hope others see it that way.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6827 is a reply to message #6800] |
Tue, 23 February 2010 16:23 |
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the armour of God. What a blessing to have this which only the Holy Spirit can supply. today lets talk about loins gird with truth. Our weapons are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds. Here is a thing that is most interesting.
First we have truth. we gather it abundantly. To know as much truth about the word is very important. We remember the man Saul who was renamed Paul. He had tremendous truth. He was a very high Pharisee, he knew the law well. Also he was zealous. He didn't tolerate this new Christianity. Moses was his hero. He persecuted the Christians.
He says to Jesus when thrown from his horse, who am I persecuting?? Jesus lets him know that to touch one of his servants was to touch Jesus.
Paul had the truth he was not wrong about the O.T.. Now that the Jesus had come, there must be a change. Only those who received the Holy Spirit were about to learn what the truth must be. Paul also got that. Many of what are called Christian today hold to the things Paul held to when a Pharisee. They still hold to the law. also they hold to traditions and what they learn from men.
The Holy Spirit was sent to teach us all things of God for this church age. These things will be the standard of truth we must learn by the Spirit.
The next thing we must learn about truth is we must apply it with sincerity. To a man who is blind he cannot tell what is dark or light. If others follow him they to will fall in a ditch. If you have a 100 dollar bill, and just throw it in a box and put it on a shelf, to forget it. the money will never be spent. The word says buy up the truth. That by the way was without money Isa. 55:
Maybe that is why truth sometimes is without value to some. It was free and they felt they could take it or leave it.
Remember Jacob when he wanted Rachel and awoke one morning with Leah. What a disturbance if we receive what seems to be truth and it winds up error. Some of the people who try to discern truth use they're reasoning. They say that sounds correct, makes sense. The devil has your name and address. He will slowly and subtly lead you away from truth. Our discernment must be by the inner witness of the Holy Spirit.
two things we must do with that armour. first we must know it is by God's yes and amen. The sincerity part is apply by faith to our lives. If you don't use it you lose it. Of coarse they're must be the time of application. You don't need healing if your well. It is profitable to take times of refreshing your memory to study those things. Ask God to give you more revelation on that subject, so it will be more rooted in the heart.
When trials come we will know what is hidden in the heart. It must be truth. exam. we need to know that we are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus. That all battles are won through him, and we have assurance of the victory. Our faith is needed to win all battles.
The weapons of our warfare are mighty through God.
We must enquire of the Lord, should we go up?? all battles are the Lord's.
If we know truth like this and then when it comes time to use it, we apply it in a heart of belief that it will work, or it just becomes truth.
To gird up the loins of our mind. a picture for that would be the difference between a star and a meteor. Stars are fixed and unmovable, meteors just stay unfixed. When those in error come we have not only learned but applied truths, so they are firmly fixed in the mind. a deceiver stirs the emotions and feelings so if what we believe is not firmly set in the heart, the flesh will give them up.
We know that many will depart in the last days. The love of many shall wax cold. We will have to love our enemies but separate from some who were friends but depart from the truth. We must not fear. You may have to be all alone for awhile and believe for placement some where else. But for protection of your soul you must follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.
We must take up our cross and follow Jesus in these perilous times. He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. He will lead us one day at a time. The scriptures tell us that the dragon will try to abort the manchild as soon as it is born.
How will the people know if they are not in tune to God's voice. The deeper life book by Dr. Hobart E. Freeman was a very accurate book concerning general details for God's endtime overcomers. In there it tells that they will learn to hear his voice continually.
When you walk in the Spirit daily then you will hear his voice daily. You will know by discernment everything you need to know ,even who your enemies are. Many times you will pray for them. truth plus sincerity plus hold fast to truth equals loins gird about with truth. loins are what holds the body up so apply that to the mind. It means your strength comes from the knowing and applying of truth. God bless.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6830 is a reply to message #6827] |
Tue, 23 February 2010 16:53 |
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Excellent post, Dave.
"Maybe that is why truth sometimes is without value to some. It was free and they FELT they could take it or leave it."
But then again, to get the TRUTH grounded in our hearts, it will cost that which we hold most dear...our self centered life's.
Maybe that's why some have struggled with and questioned the TRUTH that God presented to us 30 years ago. Maybe some chose
to hold on to that which was 'convenient' and discard the rest, calling it legalism or just a man's opinion.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6905 is a reply to message #6830] |
Tue, 02 March 2010 14:54 |
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discerning special movements within Charismatic circles. (camps)
Through a long period of observance, there are times in which some sort of movement arises within some assemblies. Some groups are watchful and discerning of fleshly movements. Some examples are holy laughter and slay in the Spirit. barking like dogs etc.
There have been noticed other more subtle ones though, that seem to go without notice. The bible says the elect will not be deceived.
One way to see this is all of a sudden a assembly seems to be reviving.
When this occurs outsiders who are watching, appear to be like those in Matt. who were watching for the angel to stir the waters so when one was let down,they were healed. Many saints who are outside waiting for a place to be set in a body, must remember that they must wait on the Lord. We must not go by appearances.
One brother is a example. He was a knowledgeable man of the word. He told that he was in another state and that he received tapes from a assembly. The tapes had the appearance that it was a reviving going on. The praise and worship was spiritually hot, and the message also. He moved his whole family there and was disappointed. The whole thing was a act.
He found shallow brethren and division and all else. The pastor was not faithful either. He tried to help and found himself thrown out. He started a body in his home.
After hearing his messages for a few weeks I discontinued going there. two things observed. He was right about the shallow assembly, also he was out of God's will because he came by feelings and not the Holy Spirits leading.
His messages were also wrong. It was a continual pattern of the same thing. a message about separation. Each message was a list of things we have been delivered from. Not that there is anything wrong with separation and giving up the things of the world. But there is the unbalance. The Lord showed what was the problem. They were teaching the message as a self righteous position. It was look at us we are elite and special because we have given up all these things. When this is the only thing presented to feed the sheep, in a unbalanced form, people have something to show that they are righteous.
The people still live sinful lives and are not obedient about other things. We are called to teach the whole council.
We must be seen not only as separate from the world but also living a life with Christ as the head. a diamond has more that one color in it. separation is one color. It can be a temptation to criticise others if they aren't so perfect in that one particular aspect of our walk.
Please read this statement carefully. We cannot teach the message of faith every Sunday in a different form. Faith is a extremely important subject. But so is the cross. so is holiness, so is sovereignty of God, etc. fifteen years go by and finally a message on deliverance.
What is a outer court Christian??
It is those who are all excited about a movement on repentance. After say 40 years of supposedly walking with the Lord in total submission, all the people are excited about a reviving from sin. The preacher says, we are all needing to get on our knees and repent of harboring sin.
How strange a thing is this. Well sometime it's a movement. Everybody is like a stick of dynamite that the preacher lights. If his church has no life, who will want to come. Perhaps there are other motives. That is all will say there. Do not want to create suspicion, just for people to be discerning.
Unfortunately, people who fall into sin as a corporate body, are in danger. They may have seven other spirits. Sin allows the devil back. Then eyes can be blinded. In the letters to the seven churches, we have the statement, unless I remove your lampstand. A continual rebellious assembly must repent in Spirit and truth or the Lord will leave.
If he leaves certainly the people will continue to be religious. They will be unfruitful and in ways find themselves blinded to the point they are fighting God. Rom. 8:6 says the carnal mind is at enmity with God. enmity is the same thing as enemy. The word teaches that the wrath of God is on the children of disobedience.
For the record, the time is to close for the return of our king the Lord Jesus. Genuine revival is a wrong word, it should be restoration. Outer court Christians are those who only go in to the tabernacle and confess sin and apologise for sin. They may have been to the holy place once in a while. Very few have been to the Holy of Hollies.
When prophesy becomes divination, watch out. The devil pretends to be the Holy Spirit in the rebellious.
We have tasted of the good cup of Christ why would we not want to go on in Spirit and truth. God promised us to take no thought for our needs. He is faithful and will respond to our prayers of faith, delays are not denials.
We cannot fill the house with glory if there is no room. the idols must go, even the ones created by hands. May God's sufficient grace keep us in the flow of the Spirit. May we learn to hate sin and love holiness, and walk in the new man.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6906 is a reply to message #6905] |
Tue, 02 March 2010 15:22 |
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| brodav9 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2010 08:54 |
discerning special movements within Charismatic circles. (camps)
We must not go by appearances.
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I have been studying the "Nots" of the bible this morning.
Thou shall not murder. None of us would ever think of committing murder.
Thou shall not commit adultery. Again we would not think of committing adultery.
How about the shall not in Jn 7:24. Judge not according to the appearance. This has the same
Commands as the previous shall nots and yet it is probably the most ignored command without question.
Mt 18: And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Little children do not judge by appearance. We are so easily swayed by appearance.
By their fruits you shall know them..
Good point Brother Dave.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6907 is a reply to message #6906] |
Tue, 02 March 2010 16:01 |
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The emergent movement that is drawing followers by the tens of thousands around the country is a result of people going by appearance. The 'growing' of a church is equated with God's presence being there. Then you throw in the activities and fellowship, a name dropping charismatic leader, and some state of the art music, and Walla! Gotta be God, right? I mean it's a politically correct church...unity at the expense of sound doctrine, if no one is offended by the preaching of the Word...then the Word's not being preached.
Same with much of the 'spirit filled' community; it 'appears' that God is moving in these 'revivals', the people haven't been taught the Word, they go by 'feelings' and seek excitement and have personal motivations for attending.(such as financial blessings, or to see miracles...resulting in them be deceived and caught in Satan's snare)
II Tim.2:15 requires time and discipline, and in the society we live in today, everyone wants everything microwave ready and 'instant'.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6911 is a reply to message #6909] |
Tue, 02 March 2010 18:07 |
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I remember a thread about 'twisting' the Word a while back, I guess if a person really wanted to justify their fleecing they could twist Isaiah 53:7.
"He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth."
I guess to ease the feeling of being taken, after realizing that is what has happened; one could feel like they were following in the footsteps of Jesus by quoting the above scripture.
It sure seems like most of them are embracing the false teachings with a double dose of 'dumb'. I noticed the 'Inspirational' network last night had started a new push for money with their 'Campmeeting'.(even had a new woman preacher on there to compliment Mike Murdock, I couldn't bring myself to watch long enough to see what their latest 'revelation' was...but I'm sure it had something to do with seeds/harvest/'this is going to be the year of all your dreams coming true'/ and a check book or credit card.)
Yes, thank God for eyes to see and ears to hear...
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #6987 is a reply to message #6912] |
Tue, 16 March 2010 16:01 |
David Coleman
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In the process of growing closer to the Lord, There has been the physical attacks. The way to view that is halleluia. Through those attacks God has been a faithful refuge in time of trouble.
The bigger our problems the bigger our God. That is a revelation all need in this last hour. Learning to maintain ground at the moving of the floods. When the enemy comes in like a flood the Lord will raise a standard against him.
Trouble is a small price to pay in order to have continual fellowship with God. It is a blessing to become smaller and smaller in self so we can become bigger and bigger in God.
Boasting in the Lord is a priviledge but even better is boasting about the Lord. For many if they were going through trials how much greater is the consolation and comfort of the Holy Spirit. Go ahead and raise up your head and stand. Remember when you bend down so does Jesus, if you stand on one leg so does Jesus.
His union with you is to the point that his mind will be in you. The heart of the king is in the hand of the Lord. We are kings and priests. What a blessing to have the Lord give you prayer burdens. Once you pray he has reached through mankind to do his will. Our prayers are predestinated.
recently while worshipping the Lord, it was dry. Not saying don't love what I do. There was a revelation to the effect that your in a warfare. the first thing that happened was as entering in to battle, just began singing a new song. It became high praise. Then came the anointing. That opened way for the Lord to help finish another song which is a wonderful revelation song.
The awesome part of it all is now through that experience, which is what the Holy Spirit wanted to motivate is how to enter in through the storm. This can be done again and again.
Also the Lord is able to minister by the Spirit more prophetical messages after entering into that anointing. One day when God is ready his true sheep will be fed and doing alot of halleluias. What a mercy to sit at his table.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7038 is a reply to message #6988] |
Sun, 11 April 2010 13:59 |
David Coleman
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The key to true recovery.
A teaching center is a marvelous work of God. A 5-fold teacher will be the perfect instrument for this training and preparation so as to get people ready for their ministries.
Somehow this doesn't seem to be all but just a part. It is very necessary to be taught a school type of ministry. People need to be taught the whole council. There must also be a functioning body.
It appears to be that there is a dominating of the pulpit with much teaching of the scriptures. That is usually where you will hear it said that the word is highest priority. To some degree that is true. The doing of the word in God's priority is just as inportant as the word.
To get right to the point-- hearing the word and not doing it is displeasing to the Lord.
The warning is , you can't work it up it must be the Holy Spirit. Each member in the body is given the responsibility to function. If not then the one man pulpit show will continue and no one will grow as they should.
It appears that spectatorship has arisen out of the Assemblies due to the fact that they don't feel the freedom to come forth. They are given the idea that there must be room for the word of the pulpit. Pastors dominate the meeting for the most part. Perhaps part of it is because they have to make tapes to make money.
A non functioning body, is a dead body. If Jesus is not head of the body it isn't a body. In the book of Acts they would pray for the Spirit of God to send them to where he wants them to go. Now not many go. The way to resolve that is through tapes and visual means. Where God is pleased with a Assembly he will bring the elect sheep there. That doesn't exclude faithful Evangelism.
If the people get attached to one 5-fold minister and exclude the other 4 the body ---will not--- be perfected. Eph. 5 tells us Jesus is coming for a church without spot wrinkle or blemish. We have got to get rid of the disobedience part to be in that position. By the way all saints no matter what position in the body must be delivered of all spirits, to house only the Holy Spirit. recovery is on the way by faith in God for all our needs.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7157 is a reply to message #7038] |
Wed, 30 June 2010 13:57 |
David Coleman
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Because of the tremendous amount of message on this subject, it is likely to be a series of posts. This is a end-time survival message that will help comfort those who are walking by faith.
In these last days there are things we all need to know. scattered bits of teaching have come our way. it is needful to be able to put it all together and what we have is called knowledge. If that knowledge is not truth it is good for nothing--only truth works. A banana is not a apple.
The issue that we deal with is called opposition to truth. If you are holding a certain truth, if it is only in the mind, it can be removed or not obeyed if it is not in the heart. Once it is mixed with faith we will know that it is discerned as from God.
Opposition will cause us to look within and see if we will embrace truth that we have, and keep it. If we resist the tempt to give it up (a certain truth) that is faith. That is when we can realise that we possess it. If you are willing to endure and hold fast to anything you reveal in your heart that it convicts you that it is of God and it is your desire to keep it.
You are guaranteed that the world you live in, wants to sqeeze you into the mold of it's darkness and unbelief. That is a good thing when you know you have embraced a good thing from God. That is because only a good thing will be tested.
Think about that for a minute----everything that you receive from God is a wonderful , precious , thing which is a priviledge to obtain. Therefore you need not be disturbed by the opposition and tempts. Your concern will be to hold to that precious truth which is your inheritance benefit.
Remember any suffering you may endure is a chance for you to see God intervene on your behalf. So for now we close with this important understanding.
1. We will call this truth no. 1-- How can God stand with us in the tempts??? The closer the personal relationship the greater the victory.--- here is a example.
you have one dollar but you need 100 dollars.
you have in (your) hand one dollar. How can you receive 99 dollars you don't have??? by faith. That relationship has the 99 dollars. it could be the world. the world has a attachment-- you must follow me. Our father in heaven is the other. He says the same-- you must follow me.
It is simple. if we can get rid of the right now complex, we can wait patiently for it to manifest. It cannot fail, truth is ,it is imposible for it to fail. We also must get rid of the false guilt delusion. We must put our hope in redemption.Guilt tries to tell you ---see you don't deserve it. We act our faith by getting all sin under the blood then there is no condemnation Rom. 8:1.
Ps. 42:3-5 --hope thou in God. praise before manifest. thanks to God also. in personal relationship there is comfort when waiting on God which is opposed by darkness. it has to be because it says when you ask, that your joy may be full----and -- your heavenly father glorified. Jn. 14:13 and Jn. 16:24
God is only glorified if he is faithful-- and faithfulness is his attribute.
We can ask for wisdom James 1:5 to apply all God's wonderful knowledge. we are more than conquerors. can the world give you eternal life?? or heaven?? or over 7,000 promises?? or peace?? or deliverance?? no just one little thing that you would like to have so as to draw you from that personal loving fellowship with God.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7165 is a reply to message #7157] |
Sun, 04 July 2010 19:24 |
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A important understanding.
Few days ago heard a message from a minister concerning the occult deliverance.
There are giants trying to stand in our paths. Very few seem to be particpating in the deliverance message. This message is not a condemning message but one of victory. Whatever challenges you in the faith area is usually of a occult nature.
Humans are easy prey to medium possibilities. here is the good news. after hearing the message on the occult, the Lord opened up understanding that it isn't the spirits that are the problem.
If we apologize for sins of the occult from past or present association, we will be forgiven. After that we say to our father, help me to stand against the oppressions till deliverance from them.
You are not charged with sins under the blood. The other important part of this is where if we are not under the blood cleansing and forgiveness then we are in a position where the enemy says he is off with God. They can bind covenant blessings.
Here is some help for you who want help and hope.
This is a experience that will fill your heart to overflowing joy.
Because the occult is a abomination--- if it is under the blood it is of no legal power over you and the manifestations of God's blessings.
God will overtake you with manifestations of mercy and blessings like you never imagined. It is important enough to come before the Lord and participate in taking the bread and the cup for this . Then praise and thank him and enjoy his wonderful presence. ( not telling you to take the bread and cup just saying it is a additional blessing.
Here is a testimony to add that happened last night. While in sleeping, the Lord pulled a large problem tooth out of my mouth while asleep. It woke me up and took the tooth and laid it on bed table. the Lord even healed the gum and there is no feeling like it ever even happened. Now will be able to enjoy the food for today. Thank you Jesus.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7182 is a reply to message #7166] |
Mon, 12 July 2010 16:01 |
David Coleman
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Hearing God's voice. hard or easy??
What a priviledge to tell this post message.
It seems so hard at times when we first begin our walk with God. This is a part of the Christian life that is actually the most important. it is in the category of the top things we need to know.
It can be frustrating when we want to hear him. Everything seems to be in opposition to it. Just like having the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Everything in the dark world doesn't want us to have power from on high to be overcomers and victorious. That's why so many have been tricked out of believing it is for today.
You have received a special blessing few have been able to obtain. Yet it is God's desire for many to have it. The only reason why the body of Christ is not where it should be is because they need teaching that will cause them to get in that victorious position.
That opportunity is right here and now, because the teacher is the Holy Spirit and he found a pair of hands to write this message.
in other words forget me.
These are out of a heart of love for God's people and that motivates the writer to be receptive of the Holy Spirit's work. After writing this statement it came to me the voice. That is what the post is for. to teach about the voice. Today as walking around in the house was finding self talking out loud continually. The thought , if someone saw me talking to self they would think he's crazy. But the thought was then that there is nobody watching except my heavenly father.
To the father, he hears all we think or speak and understands it altogether. That's why we have to get ---all-- me to -- all the carnal thinking out of the head. It would be frustrating if God didn't respond to us till every thought was perfect.
But look at this--- He does expect that. he has removed the frustration by making a way. He will speak to us if we are in the light he is in. The word of God is the light. That is all that God is, he hasn't revealed very much to us, only the little bit the bible holds.
That's right the bible is a tiny little revelation. Why is that?? because God is infinite in wisdom. He gave us what we need to know until matured to give more. Man has no true wisdom at all. God's wisdom only comes from God. The bible by wisdom, was given us but it is mostly knowledge. Wisdom then comes to apply that knowledge and has to be received by the Holy Spirit.
Any carnal thing will stand in the way because wisdom is not carnal.
Wisdom is light. If we walk in the light as he is in the light. then light will come. Esther must come the right way before king Ahaseurus, is not God more so.
Here's the difference---- two sides of God. we must understand this. Why will the body of Christ not progress until God's son becomes the head-- it's obvious-- he only imparts life and wisdom-- every part of your body is subject to your brain. no brain equals--duh duh.
Important for you to see I'm not being critical by saying this-- God's body is making progress because of grace and that means alot. So what is being said here is that the life which goes further than a concuring grace takes activity on our part. That grace must be obtained through faith. Example would be healing-- unless gift of faith brings it automatically but still based on a confession of a promise.
Please listen carefully here. No mistakes here-- our God is extremely valuable and worthy of more respect than any earthly king. If he sees that respect in your heart for him, you can be personal enough to tell him how much you enjoyed your wife's chicken and dumplins last night.
He knows what you think anyway. ---So just get your thinkin right. Rom. 8:5-6 is the scriptural basis for hearing from God.
No robots here the choice is ours. Where then is God taking us?? Only in the right direction. 1Cor. 13 says the greatest of these is charity--love. If your going in any other direction your off the narrow path. God's #one priority is our relationship to him. it is so important that we shall live in fellowship for eternity -- that is more than a trillion trillions of years.
Lately have received some ideas of what we will be doing in heaven. for now start with this--- a Great God is willing to stoop down to little insignificant us and fellowship and create in us a value that makes us acceptable to him. That is why he made us new creations. To live literally in this human body to impart enough life to make us come into this tremendous union with himself.
Why is the joy of the Lord all over me today?? because he is my friend, who is full of compassion and chose to see value in such a valueless creature, that is apart from him. Humility means a hill of beans until it produces communion with the most high. Once you have more than baby talk come out of your mouth and know of the anointing of the Holy Spirit upon your prayers in the Spirit, and sometimes even travail, you will feel strong enough to go through any trial sent your way-- by the way allowed for your good.
summary-- a supreme God worthy of all respect, waiting to impart freely his wisdom to those who speak his word back to him so as to be filled with light and go into his light. thereby producing fellowship and communion which is intimate and personal. All this under a commitment to overcome carnal thinking and worldliness in order to become of one mind and one accord with the head of the church. basis for this-- Heb.4:16 This bids us to come. God bless and victory to you.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7368 is a reply to message #7182] |
Sun, 26 September 2010 12:38 |
David Coleman
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When we are ushered into battle, which for the most part comes at any moment, often regularly. These are sent from the enemy from his desire. Those are from God's side opportunities to train us.
For overcomers shall be trained for leadership. This school of training which is designed out of the wisdom of God. He sees that they are coming and providentially is prepared to impart to us wisdom to overcome them.
our training is by using the knowledge given us and applying it.
We see shadows of this in Solomon. in 1Kings 3:10-11, 4:29, 10:24. Be sure to see that Solomon admits from the very outset that he cannot do it. That is revealed by him asking for it. Jam. 1:5 says that this wisdom is given liberally. Solomon received liberally as the sand on the seashore.-------by the Holy Spirit.
Eph. 1:17 shows this wisdom is given and not received by just studying. Acts 6:3 reveals that they would be filled with the Holy Spirit and wisdom.
prov. 9:10 shows us that to fear the Lord will bring this wisdom. it is difficult for those who are educated to see that there is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. when we see it saying to us get understanding, that is discernment. meat and wisdom are for the mature.
As we approach the battles of the enemy the first thing we must do is wait on the Lord for wisdom. He helps us apply the knowledge of the word. If that knowledge is error it won't work for us. We must overcome the desire to be at ease and all go peaceful. That will cause less training in the army plan.
We must redeem the time and prepare to be manifested as the sons of God.
here is a list of a few items we can be maturing in. may they bless you abundantly.
removal of selfish atitudes
increase in faith
rid of fear and condemning guilt
growing in love
being a servant of God
manifesting God's power and gifts
walking in the laws of the Spirit
fruits of the Spirit
free from man's laws--seperating from world
joy of the Lord ,his presence and peace.
if you are spiritually awall---army term, just return in prayer and have the Spirit help you continue. We must not have reblious hearts if we are to continue in the walk of faith.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7442 is a reply to message #7368] |
Mon, 01 November 2010 15:37 |
David Coleman
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A tremendous anointing is upon me this morning. It is of no question of what the Lord is saying. The issue is dust. Went into the livingroom to take a look at this wooden fire light which is a replica of a fire on logs and runs by a lamp in back. It has sat a long time and not been used. The dust was heavy and took it outside cleaned it up. It will be great to use while playing guitar in the dark, like a campfire thing.
what good is a fire covered with dust? Well we want to bless you--Spirit and I, by giving you a idea as to how you can be blessed. Here is something been doing for years. It came about from being rewarded for being a note taker in the Assemblies.
first get you a easy identifiable book. clean pages.
then create your own personal charismatic dictionary.
think in terms of 26 if you do it in English, if there are 75 pages you can use a letter 3 times. there aren't many xs in word terms. You may want some pages with 3 letters like xyz. Here is a example of mine.
A. Angels-- then write the scriptures you know and a description--- Don't worship them-- Rev. 22:8-9
excel in strength--- Ps. 103:20
You don't need to do a scripture study only, for it is important that you have a little teaching there that you have received from 5-fold ministers. Leave room for revelations that came to you by the Spirit.
Most important is that you will have at your fingertips a ready working knowledge of all you need for the use of that subject by faith.
Non use of the things we have been taught will collect (dust) they just lay on the shelf. They are a gift to us to be thought upon regularly. For us who have been given much it is to much to think on at one time. Also we can pray over these things to apply them in our lives. Memorization will also be refreshed.
cont. B. the blood-- C. confession D. deliverance E. edify F. faith to show how we add words skip a few lines from a word in your dictionary and then add another one.
F. Faith
F. fruit
F. family
F. firstfruits and so on.
You may also have done your own studies and can add those to.
It must be said ,for those who lovew the teachings of the word, this is actually a lot of fun. What a joy to look into the things and see ourselves in them by faith. One example is that as you put in healing you look at the scriptures and teachings and think about the experiences you had when the Lord healed you or someone else. At that time you can also pray for God to heal others and even pour out manifestations of healing on your beloved saints wherever they may be--- even those you don't even know. May God bless you as you do this. He wonderfully has for me.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7465 is a reply to message #7442] |
Sun, 07 November 2010 00:58 |
David Coleman
Messages: 319
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Rapid pace of material goods are on the move at this time of year.
It is time for rapid pace of riches in glory to be moving this year.
God doesn't store up goods that haven't been claimed. For example king Solomon reached into the riches of God's wisdom and all the rest were added.
We are familiar with Matt. 6:33 where it tells us seek first the kingdom and all these things shall be added.
it is saying the same thing in Ps. 84:11 do you see the root word in uprightly?? it is the word right--short for righteousness. to walk uprightly is to seek first righteousness.
with hold no good thing would be all these things added to you. That is what Solomon desired. He wanted to be righteous by serving God in wisdom.
That would apply to praising God when no fruit on the vine or calves in the stall. Hab. 3:17
What we have to ovewrcome is when the devil uses situations to tell us we don't have any reward for our labor. Matt. 4:4 Satan tried to do that to Jesus. He offewrs the world to Jesus to bow down to him. Jesus returns to him wisdom. It is better to honor God and believe his word.
We are encouraged to put our hope in heavenly inheritance. To receive fellowship with God far outways earthly things. That is why it is continually put in the mind to want the things down here. When we see a manifestation of our faith it comes from God through the vision. It is still out of the heavenly that it comes.
One of the most awesome revelations concerning this which came to me is that God wants to give us a lot more than we realise. He gives manifestations out of his wisdom. Notice that he gave us salvation that we weren't looking for, so he predestined us--- what if he was doing that concerning things he wants us to have that we don't even know about.??
This is already known to be true. The Lord sometimes answers without our asking. He already knows we are walking by faith and that he knows what we need. We pray in the Spirit sometimes and don't know that when we are praying according to the will of God, it is for something we didn't know we needed to pray for, we pray perfect prayers in the Spirit.
Don't be tricked not to pray in tongues because looks like you didn't pray because it wasn't in your language. Jesus is the captain of our salvation and is leading us right into the will of God and our inheritance. Just keep on holding fast. the world can't even give us the great things God has for us.---though sometimes he may use them to do it. Sometimes though they just appear. Jesus just kept praying and listening to the father's voice and many things were manifest through him.
Let us go on to perfection and maturity and not slide back into babyhood. The temptation to do so is constant. But the rewards are out of this world.
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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| Re: instructions for overcomers [message #7496 is a reply to message #7465] |
Sun, 21 November 2010 14:00 |
David Coleman
Messages: 319
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with wisdom get understanding.
Here is a moment to share a understanding which will help to get a perspective concerning how we see things.
Here is a analogy picture--- This is one that has helped me. When working as a maintenance man in a Best Western motel, When called to fix a tub, sink toilet, pipe system, etc. There are things to consider. Each thing you repair is very good and useful. You don't go in there and curse the sink or say I hate you toilet.
God has made wonderful human beings and they are broken. They appear to be just human beings. In the analogy-- just a toilet, just a sink, just a pipe. Who cares who is using the tub, sink etc. But as you can see they just need to be fixed.
So by all this we can see-- who cares what their color is--- what they do for a living--- what their hobby is ---what they eat-- even what they believe--- no--- just fix them, yes that's all.
Well that tub can't be fixed right now have to order a part. That will take time. Then maybe we can fix it maybe not. Of coarse people are different , they need love to get into their hearts. So build a friendship. Keep yourself clean, but don't be afraid. They may reject you but hopefully not. There are plenty of other people.
Ps. 147:3 He healeth the broken in heart he bindeth up their wounds. read Lk. 4:18 right in the middle, he was sent to heal the broken hearted. Isa. 61:1 right in the middle he hath sen me to bind up the broken hearted. We are sent to set captives free. and heal the broken hearted. Am thankful he healed mine amen. Also Isa. 40:29-31. God bless
faith-- forsake all I trust him. Baal-- believe apostacy all lost. bible-- believe in bible life eternal.
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