| Why Is It So Quiet? [message #830] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 05:10  |
 Michael The Disciple
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Registered: September 2007
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Literally hundreds of people pass through this board daily! Why are you all not posting? Is practically all who come here just looking for past info on Bro. Freeman?
I love to hear things about him and Faith Assembly positive or negative as long as they are true. But there is much truth to yet be sorted out among those who believe.
[Updated on: Wed, 17 October 2007 05:10]
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #832 is a reply to message #830] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 17:03  |
ump1
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Registered: October 2007
Location: Indiana |
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I was a part of FA through the Lafayette meeting from 1976 to 1984, when I moved away from Indiana for employment reasons. I had attended some FA meetings, but mostly went to Bruce Kinsey's meetings. I have been to Tom Hamiltons, Steve Hills, and Dave Hardy's meetings as well. Getting to know some of the ministers and their wives was a revealing experience. Funny how some of the ministers would preach one thing but live another. Let me preface this story by saying that I am very grateful to Bruce and DR. Freeman for the teaching that I received. I am the dedicated Deciple today because of these men. However, They Taught me to rightly divide the word for myself, and prove that what they teach is the truth and lines up with the Word of God. Ok, so anyway, I had a teacher visit our family to get away from what was going on in Indiana. We were in a vacation state that is very popular in the winter, and dr. Freeman had just passed away, Lafayette was still dealing with Bruce being removed as Pastor. I learned many little secrets of some of the leadership that proved to me that they were just regular folks, not the icons that they were built up to be. I was saddened at the duplicity, but understood it, considering the absolute control Dr. Freeman had. I learned that one was a tremendous Chicago Cubs fan, and would listen to games on a small radio with earphones whenever he cut grass or studied or even just before taking the pulpit to preach if a game was being broadcast at the time. This would not have been received well. The minister that visited us also had their little swares into the world. Ministers wife liked to wear jeans, but could not wear them except in the house or like when they visited us. She went with my wife to buy a swim suit that would not have been acceptable back in Indiana, so she could enjoy the sun during her visit. TVs in the closet, things like that. I thought it quite insightful that many of these ministers under Dr. Freeman did not completely agree with him in private, but only publicly. I hold Bruce Kinsey in high regard for trying to reason with Dr. Freeman on some issues. His treatment for standing up for what he believed was horrible. I could tell you a lot of stories that were related to me by friends when the Lafayette meeting had the big split over Bruce' removal.
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1222 is a reply to message #839] |
Fri, 15 February 2008 12:35 |
Believer
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Registered: February 2008
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Keep posting everyone. I was challenged by your comments. I don't come here to hear about Hobart Freeman but to read how God is working in the lives of others. 26 years it has been since I have wanted to know what other Christians were doing let alone what other FA members were doing. Bruce Kinsey was someone I never met but heard about 25 years ago as I sat under that teaching. I was saddened to hear about his departure from FA then, but still my compassion for him about his departure was with him. I sent him a letter or was it a card all those years ago seeking to influence him to keep close to the Lord and that he was still with him. I knew that even though he left FA the Lords love was still upon him. Maybe he remembers the card I sent and it encoraged him to never give up on his salvation. I prayed that God keep him safe and well and close to Him as I'm sure many others did too. (I wonder what our Lord does with all those conflicting prayers that I have read others have been lead to pray?) I know I prayed in faith. I do believe there are higher truths than just the pray of faith and God's will is always done. We often believe we know the mind of God and pray down judjment but is it the mind of God or just our own anger and frustration. ONLY GOD knows hearts and I know that a bruise reed God will not break nor a smoking flax he will not quench. Praise him!
I was blessed to listen to other ministers of God whilst I listened to FA teaching. We can only live the life that we believe God has for each of us. We will all stand accountable for it one day. Our gifts, what ever they are and how often we use them and what we use them for will be accountable to the Lord one day.. I myself am asking my Lord what gifts have you given me and how am I using them. Will I be able to stand before You and say that You lead me to do that?.... and am I using them to bring in Your kingdom. These days I am praying to control the heavenlies to alter seasons, times and happenings. I have begun to exercise that power in the heavenlies. I will be accountable for it one day. I have faith assembly's message on faith that has helped me exercise the faith to do it. I believe I have the faith with God's help to move the heavenlies. I commanded the heavenlies to not rain very heavy over my place...guess what?... it didn't rain as heavy over my place. Once I watched on the weather tracking radar and the rain went in a circle, skipping our place. I was gob smacked. Right before my eyes I could see God was working in the heavenlies for me. Once I commanded it to rain when my dam was dry and it rained. This rain event was so supernatural that I was amazed - a black cloud appeared coming from a different direction where clouds never appear from, and this cloud was all on its own appearing from nowhere, dark and forbodding laiden with rain and it rained right over my dam! Really, right over my dam! Praise God my water issues were met. Days before, I had asked the next door neighbour if I could pump water from their enourmous dam (they had more than they ever needed) because mine was dry and they said no. God was showing me he provides my needs and that he can control the clouds with my prayer of faith. Despite my own efforts to supply my needs He did it. It was truely a magnificient expereience. This was the beginning, some 5 years ago, of what God was showing. He was calling me to use my prayer of faith in the heavenlies. I have begun to use this power as God leads. God is only just beginning to show me the great power He has given to me to bring in His Kingdom. Like Daniel I will move the heavenly bodies for God's kingdom.
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1230 is a reply to message #830] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 01:03 |
JWBTI
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Registered: March 2007
Location: Ohio |
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Derick wrote:
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I would have rather heard that God took away the pain of a headache or healed a rotten tooth, or someone got salvation than you think you made it rain, but I guess we look for God's presence these days wherever we can find it. The old indians could make it rain as well, so thats really nothing special.
Derick:
I haven't heard you give any Testimonys of what God is doing in your life ref the above statement.
Must be that Dead-Zone you are in ?
We here in Western Ohio don't have much discernment, just Child like faith in Gods Word.Our little group of 50-60 people
never even heard of FA an or the Glory Barn beside myself.....we are so dumb....we believe, that if the car breaks down we
can lay hands on the thing to make it run ....we believe that God will protect us from storm damage & keep that 60 foot tree
from falling on the house....we believe that God has given us the power To heal the sick........We even believe that God wants
us to share Dreams & Vision given in the night......to speak in tongues.....and to tell the sum of the matter........We have people
stand up every week an share the Wonders of God in their lives......... Cancers healed, Knees restored,Back pain gone,
Salvation of family members,protection from car crashes,God providing- food,clothing,money to pay bills.People sharing
how The Word of God is changing lives an drawing then closer to Jesus.
Derick wrote:
Anybody with any discernment knows that we are in dead-zone now with precious few clues to God's power in the world. Its my opinion that its a time to quietly stand and wait, but I think I have the mind of the Lord.
Derick:
Sorry about that Dead Zone you are in.......We'll bring that before the Body in prayer, the next time we meet.
Sorry, I can't be quiet either......got to much to share.....Gods Word !
Wait ? Nope !!!!!!
I must be about my Fathers business !
I KNOW I HAVE THE MIND OF THE LORD ON THAT !
Ron
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1234 is a reply to message #1233] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 02:25 |
Derick N.
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Registered: November 2007 |
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Ha! Nope I'm afraid you are stuck with me.
However, I guess you have realized by now that I'm not your average bear. The point that a lot of folks miss is that we all have different giftings and ways of seeing the truth. No one gift is more valuable than the other. All are necessary for the growth of the body.
Its hypocritical to "attack" me because I have a different view of things that don't line up with the party line. God took me in a certain path and showed me certain things, fitting and forming me for His purposes as he has all of you.
I never "attacked" beleiver, but I've heard so many of those kinds of "testimonies" in my life, which may or may not be God, but could just be the natural weather pattern, ect. but Believer has to make a point of telling us that hes controlling the heavenlies... ai carumba! Sorry for the rant.
JWBTI so you have a nice little church of 50-60 people? Thats nice. So in reality its maybe 30 that attend for real and out of the 30 theres 4 heads of household with their women and the rest are children. Pretty close? Don't think I know all about it? Oh I forgot the 2 chronically single girls that are believing for husbands and the one divorced brother that is believing for restoration of his marraige.
Out of the 4 men in the church how many will go to deaths door in a trial of faith? Maybe one? You?
Got the five-fold ministry working in your assembly? No I don't think so. Maybe you have a real pastor if you are fortunate, but more likely is some poor brother that knows a smidgen more about The Word than the rest, but does not have a true calling.
I'll pray for you and yours Brother, because you are in the dead-zone as well and don't have the sense to know it. But maybe when you are all together in the same room making the same noise you can make yourself believe that God is moving in your midst.
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1236 is a reply to message #1234] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 03:58 |
JWBTI
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Registered: March 2007
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Derick,I'am glad you're staying.
I need all the prayers an help I can get.
Next time ya stop by the Fellowship, at least introduce yourself so we know that you where there.
Thanks Brother.
Got any Testimonies for us today ?
Ron
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1239 is a reply to message #1237] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 04:30 |
JWBTI
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Location: Ohio |
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Derick wrote:
God took me in a certain path and showed me certain things, fitting and forming me for His purposes as he has all of you.
Derick,
please tell us what that path an purpose is, so we might better understand you.
Is that being trite & cute ?
Ron
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1241 is a reply to message #1240] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 13:00 |
JWBTI
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Location: Ohio |
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Believer,
Thank you for sharing what God is doing today....Amen
1 Thes 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
Hey! we used to sing that at Fa....good song !
Bro Ron
Ron
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1243 is a reply to message #1242] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 16:05 |
grandom
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Registered: October 2007 |
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From Luke 18:9-14, NIV [1]
To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1252 is a reply to message #1251] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 21:24 |
JWBTI
Messages: 253
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ohio |
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Derick wrote:
No this time you are being condescending. You remind me of those people who need to know right away what church you go to so they can pigeon-hole you immediately.
My path and purpose is my own, and just like a ministry it needs no explanation but should be evident by the signs that follow. If we were in fellowship I would be responsible to you, but online anyone can say anything.
Derick:
Thats what I've been asking:
What signs?
Please share them with us....Please....Please....Please
Ron
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| Re: Why Is It So Quiet? [message #1255 is a reply to message #1254] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 23:55 |
JWBTI
Messages: 253
Registered: March 2007
Location: Ohio |
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Derick:
I spoke the truth an you called me a liar.
You said:
Out of the 4 men in the church how many will go to deaths door in a trial of faith? Maybe one? You?
Derick:
Ya got part of that right....I've been there !
Derick said:
Ron, you go ahead and address this post, and then I will tell you something. Just don't tell me you are the "Pastor".
Nope! Not the Pastor....Not my calling.
Derick wrote:
The biggest problem with you all is you don't know how lost and miserable you are.
WANT ADD:
Seeking five-fold ministry to work in our assembly.
Please reply via E-Mail
JWBTI@OVERCOMERSONLINE.COM
Ok now ! Tell me something.
Ron
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