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The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11746] Tue, 15 September 2015 00:55 Go to next message
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After the financial crisis of 2008 we saw the Group of 20 formed. This group was set up to help solve the financial difficulties of the world system. At that time they decided to up grade the FSF (Financial Stability Forum) to a legal board – FSB, the Financial Stability Board. This enabled this institution to make great changes across the system by introducing certain rules & regulations that financial institutions would have to follow.

Also at that time the G 20 wanted to upgrade the IMF (International Monetary Fund), but it wasn`t the right time. Certain other factors needed to come into play – the US`s dollar needed to lose its strong hold on the global system & China needed to be more locked into the system.

Over the past few years we have seen the US`s debt rise to $18 trillion, with $10 million every minute. Obviously this is not repayable. The US`s dollar is becoming increasingly a `hot potato,` & everyone wants to get rid of them. The BRIC`s (Brazil, Russia, India & China) has formed their own financial group, & Russia is even passing a law formally dumping the US dollar. Then we read of China`s recent financial fall, its economic downturn.

Thus I believe the time is ripe for the IMF to be upgraded & take over the responsibility of being the Global System`s reserve currency. Now how will they be empowered to do this.
Well, at the moment they have a basket of currencies – UK, USA, Europe & Japan, (pound, dollar, euro, & yen) but soon I believe China will also be involved with its Yuan, & then we`ll see the major economies of the world come together.

Apparently this will be announced on October 20th this year by the IMF, as a reserve currency alternative to the US dollar. Experts say that this will send hundreds of billions of dollars moving around the world, literally overnight. This announcement is expected to trigger one of the most profound transfers of wealth in our lifetime.

This decision comes on the heels of China pushing for their own currency to be elevated to reserve currency status. So this, I believe will transform the financial landscape dramatically. Once the IMF currency becomes alternative to the dollar, rules of the game begin to change. The announcement will start a domino effect that brings down the US dollar`s dominance & will devalue the dollar. No one will want US dollars & they will no longer be accepted for trade.

If this happens, which I believe it will, then, are we ready for this global change that will affect us all?

Marilyn.

[Updated on: Tue, 15 September 2015 01:31]


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11748 is a reply to message #11746] Tue, 15 September 2015 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Marilyn,

I'm glad you keep up on this stuff its good to know what is going on in the whole world. The news we get in America is generally biased and tainted with liberalism.


Gary



Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11749 is a reply to message #11746] Tue, 15 September 2015 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats really interesting Marilyn. I knew there was a move afoot to replace the US$ as the worlds currency I haven't really followed it though.

For this to happen would be catastrophic for the US so I think we could expect some very serious push back.

The significance of this could hardly be under estimated.

Very simply put (leaving aside recent oil discoveries in the US) and using oil as an eg.


Anyone buying oil in the world buys it in US $ They first buy US $ with their currency then buy the oil. Meaning the price they pay for it depends on how much it cost them to buy US $. America would just buy it with their money and no complications If Oil isn't priced in US $ then America is subject to the same currency fluctuation everyone else is. This is hugely serious with very serious implications for America

If anyone doesn't understand this google it. It is hugely important


I personally think it isn't time for this to happen as the results (world wide) are so serious. There's lots being said about this Oct & Sept so we'll see.

In any case its very interesting. Thanks for posting Marilyn and please keep us up to date.

[Updated on: Tue, 15 September 2015 15:28]


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11750 is a reply to message #11746] Tue, 15 September 2015 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marilyn Crow wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 19:55


If this happens, which I believe it will, then, are we ready for this global change that will affect us all?

Marilyn.



Do you ask this question to cause one to give thought or do you have something in mind that would prepare people? Are you speaking spiritually prepared or practically prepared? As Mark said, there seems to be a focus on Sept. and Oct. as to something happening with worldwide ramifications. I don't want to be or sound jaded, but ever since I became a Christian(and I'm sure it's gone on way, way before that) in the late 70's, especially in charismatic circles, constant prophecies and predictions of the end; from dates of The Lord's return, to who the latest antichrist is, to you name it...and all had scriptures they used for proof text, with a 'thus sayeth The Lord' to add impact.
All I know to do is rest in the promises of God that He would never leave of forsake His CHURCH/BODY/PEOPLE, apply the wisdom He gives us in His Word, and keep my eyes on Him believing what He begun in me He will complete. If the economy collapses and this nation is totally reduced nothing then that will be His will and certainly no one can say we didn't deserve it...the iniquity of this nation seems to have no bounds, surely the cup is overflowing.


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11751 is a reply to message #11750] Tue, 15 September 2015 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gary, Mark & James,

Thank you all so much for your input & encouragement. It is always a pleasure to speak to you all.

Now James as to `preparing people.` Yes I do have a few thoughts.

1. Gather in more food for your families & for others who might need it. (supermarkets may get swamped with a panic rush.)

2. Have more cash on hand, (banks will take some time to get their finances in order & only give out a little at a time. What`s in the banks is legally theirs & they will give your finances a hair cut if you have more than $100,000 in your account.)

3. Above all, as you said, James, trust the Lord & seek Him for the practical ways to operate in this world as it heads to more power & control.

Blessings, Marilyn.


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11752 is a reply to message #11751] Wed, 16 September 2015 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marilyn Crow wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 17:52

Hi Gary, Mark & James,

Thank you all so much for your input & encouragement. It is always a pleasure to speak to you all.

Now James as to `preparing people.` Yes I do have a few thoughts.

1. Gather in more food for your families & for others who might need it. (supermarkets may get swamped with a panic rush.)

2. Have more cash on hand, (banks will take some time to get their finances in order & only give out a little at a time. What`s in the banks is legally theirs & they will give your finances a hair cut if you have more than $100,000 in your account.)

3. Above all, as you said, James, trust the Lord & seek Him for the practical ways to operate in this world as it heads to more power & control.

Blessings, Marilyn.



Hi Marilyn,

I would have to go with door number three concerning the suggestions you gave above.

First off storing up money could be a waste of time. Remember what happened in Germany years ago, a wheel barrow full of money could not even buy a loaf of bread. Money is just a piece of paper and is worthless in itself, and it could lose all of its value in a time of crisis.

Secondly storing up food is not a great idea as well. In this country, people are getting quite violent, just read the daily newspapers and people are killing each other all over the country for no reason at all. Now take the scenario that if the neighbors knew you had food stored up and they were hungry it would not take much for people to just take what they wanted with no regard to any harm they had to do.

The reason the third possibility you suggested sounds the best, is because Jesus said to take no thought for the things we need in life as our Heavenly Father knows we have need of them and will provide them.

The Bible says I (God), will take care of you in your old age.

This does not mean we would get out of any horrible times but knowing the Lord is there to help during the horrible times, brings great comfort.

During the great depression there are numerous accounts of God providing for His people and making a way for them. Anyway you could only store up so much food and when it runs out your back to square one.

When God shakes this country with judgement men will not just make it on their own with survival techniques.


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Isaiah 2:19-21

19
They shall go into the holes of the rocks,
And into the caves of the earth,
From the terror of the Lord
And the glory of His majesty,
When He arises to shake the earth mightily.

20
In that day a man will cast away his idols of silver
And his idols of gold,
Which they made, each for himself to worship,
To the moles and bats,
21
To go into the clefts of the rocks,
And into the crags of the rugged rocks,
From the terror of the Lord
And the glory of His majesty,
When He arises to shake the earth mightily.




When the communists ruled over Germany, one fall season there was a lot of rain where they could not get their crops in. The Government at that time hung signs all around the country which read:

"Without God, and without the Sun we will get the harvest done."

It kept raining heavily and the signs became soaked destroyed by the rain. Needless to say the crops lay on the ground as well and became totally ruined.

Men are helpless before the Living God and its only those who put their trust in Him will be comforted in the time of trouble.

Above all, trust in the Lord, "He" is well able to help us.

Thanks again for posting all of this stuff concerning what is taking place with this world's economies, I think its good information to know and I do believe we are closer now to the time of the end.

If you have read any news of what is going on over here, you probably have heard: the wicked stand at a podium with a very loud voice, in which they promote their liberal ideas while they condemn anyone who speaks against it.


Gary







[Updated on: Wed, 16 September 2015 09:30]

Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11753 is a reply to message #11752] Wed, 16 September 2015 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary wrote on Wed, 16 September 2015 04:22


I would have to go with door number three concerning the suggestions you gave above.



I agree Gary, no disrespect to you Marilyn but I've witnessed the hoarding up or stockpiling of goods and water on more than one occasion. Remember the Y2K fiasco? I had Christian friends who bought into that, liquidated cash, bought up dry goods and instant meals, water by the large containers...I didn't condemn them then nor am I condemning you now, but unless something has changed in God's Word (and we know it hasn't) I am going to rest in Him. Are there Biblical examples of storing up? Yes, we all know of Joseph and his dreams and the famine that came upon Egypt and the solution God gave them.

Should a true prophet of God or The Holy Spirit direct me to take those type action, then that would be different. But then again, those who were Christian thought they were following the leading of The Lord at various other times.

I wouldn't want to be responsible for anyone else's decisions so I'm not suggesting what others do, just stating where I stand. I do believe in a reasonable amount of preparedness as for taking thought for tomorrow(as I've stated somewhere on this forum in a discussion along this line of thought); like freezing veggies and fruits to have in the winter months, butchering livestock, or buying something that's on sale to have at a later time, and even having some cash on hand isn't a bad idea. I think it's one thing to prepare for a few months ahead as do generally people who live off the land and farm and gather themselves(as opposed to us 'city folks' who buy everything at the store...lol)but I think it's altogether different to do so being motivated by fear of the future or what the future might bring. Again, just my thoughts....


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11754 is a reply to message #11753] Wed, 16 September 2015 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gary & James,

I think you have both misread what I mean. I said above all trust the Lord & seek practical ways to operate in the world. If there is a financial crisis, & we are told in advance, then getting some more supplies & some cash is preparedness. I did not suggest to hoard up months or years of supplies & wheel barrows of cash.

- have more cash on hand (as you may not be able to transact digitally till the banks get sorted out)

- & have some more food (as the rush on the supermarkets would not be a pleasant way to spend that week-end)

The system will still go on after the blip, but to me just saying `trust in the Lord` & a Tsunami is coming & not do anything is not trusting the Lord to give you practical wisdom.

Hope that explains it better.

Marilyn.


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11755 is a reply to message #11754] Thu, 17 September 2015 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Marilyn and James,

I guess the main point is that this is the end of time. I always take a wait and see attitude because we have heard so many coming with dire predictions that never come to pass.

The Y2k (which James mentioned), was a major issue over here and that is all we heard in the news. Everything was going to shut down electrical, gas, anything hooked up to a computer. Then the day finally arrives and nothing happens. I remember President Clinton saying that, America spent a billion dollars and that it was a billion dollars well spent.

The next event was not as major but some guy wrote a book saying when all the planets lined up in the galaxy, we would see major earthquakes, tsunamis, flooding, etc. The day arrived and nothing happened.

Now we have had ministers with the blood moon prophecies, they are saying something major in the world will take place every time there is a blood moon. The last blood moon came and went. By the way the next one coming is at the end of this month when everyone is expecting another major event to take place.

This is just a few events over the years that people have been speculating about. It appears that men want some type of judgement to fall. But the truth is, at least what I think, when it does fall apart "most" will be caught off guard and it will not be something that everyone is preparing for. Life goes on, people on this earth are marrying, buying, selling, as though it will always be here.

Its like Jesus coming as a thief in the night, no one will be expecting it.

We can only take a day at a time, because we really don't know everything (concerning every aspect of the future), till it happens.


Gary



Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11756 is a reply to message #11755] Thu, 17 September 2015 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for clarifying Marilyn, and I think I remember you once saying you and Trevor lived in a rural setting, so making preparations in this area are probably part of your daily lives anyway. I was raised in the country and grew up farming and living off the land so I understand that as a lifestyle. (I still enjoy going down to my home 'stomping grounds' and spend time with my family on the farm. My brother and his sons raise cattle, goats, chickens, hay, and have 'gardens' that cover more area that I would ever like to work by hand, of course they use tractors)

I know there is a sweeping craze going on here about storing up goods (there is even the once famous TV evangelist, Jim Bakker<PTL>, who now out of prison, is back hawking end-of-the-world supplies on TV<for a nice chunk of change 'to the ministry, of course> plus there are 'reality TV shows' about 'Doomsday Preppers', where people are building bunkers underground and hoarding up years food supplies and arming themselves with arsenals that rival third world nations. Fear is a crippling emotion and even paralyzing to people who allow it to take root in their hearts, only Jesus can give peace when there is no peace.

Maybe this will happen, maybe it wont; maybe the blood moon predictions will come true or maybe they wont...regardless, we must be prepared spiritually, if we're prepared spiritually then we will know what to do because He will lead us....He will never forsake us and He will provide. Not because we are 'overcomers', but because He loves us and promised to keep us.

[Updated on: Thu, 17 September 2015 15:43]


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11757 is a reply to message #11755] Fri, 18 September 2015 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gary,

I quite understand what you are saying - the Y2k, the blood moons, rapture dates etc etc. I don`t look to those either. Now concerning what I wrote you know I do research & have done that for many years. I get certain info from -

World research.

- CIGI (Centre for International Governance Innovation.)(Canada)
- UN`s UNESCO
- Lowry Institute. (Aust.)

Christian research.

- Forcing Change. Pol/Eco & Rel info. (Canada)
- Crossroads - Berit Kjos, Discernment on Rel/Eco/UN/ false teaching etc. (Canada)
- Discernment Ministries. Rel. false teaching.
- Prophecy news Watch.

You may find some of those quite informative & interesting & help you keep abreast with what is happening on a global scale.


All the best, Marilyn.



[Updated on: Fri, 18 September 2015 21:49]


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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11758 is a reply to message #11756] Fri, 18 September 2015 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi James,

That was really good of you to share about your family. I can just see you on the farm & helping around. What a variety of animals & also it sounds like a very large vegie garden. We have one here but although big doesn`t sound that big. I`m sure you all eat well there.

Now concerning those who are getting ready for the tribulation, I have a very dear friend who is part of a group that has put shipping containers underground, plus caravans etc on a way out property in the expectation that they will ride out that terrible time. My friend used to believe in the rapture but through various denominational & leadership bad experiences has gone to the Catholic Church & fully embraced its teachings.

We used to lock horns but now when I visit for a few days I have learnt (am learning) to work with the Holy Spirit & see what He is doing to bring her out of that great error. We talk about God working in our lives now & we`ve gotten to praying from the heart & not just endless rote prayers she reads.

Strange times we live in, bro, Blessings, Marilyn.



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Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11759 is a reply to message #11758] Fri, 18 September 2015 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:



Marilyn wrote:

Now concerning what I wrote you know I do research & have done that for many years. I get certain info from -





Marilyn a quick note here what you wrote several posts back I just wanted you to know I was blessed by it and I appreciate what you have researched out. To be honest I'm not the smartest guy in the world and its hard for me to get into finding a lot of facts with all the numbers. With that in mind I don't have the ability to spend the time with it. But I do think its interesting when someone has the ability to make it simple and is able to share news like this.


James your amazing I would never of dreamed you grew up on a farm. My Grandpa had a farm and I use to love staying there in the summer.

I know a situation where a Christian is hiding gold on her property and she thinks the government is going to shut off her electricity and water supply so she is trying to prepare for it. She spends endless hours reading Christian government conspiracy novels.

Thankfully we can rest in the Lord, because He has told us so.

Isaiah 46:4
Even to your old age, I am He, And even to gray hairs I will carry you! I have made, and I will bear; Even I will carry, and will deliver you.



Gary






Re: The Executive Arm of the Global Government. [message #11760 is a reply to message #11759] Fri, 18 September 2015 11:35 Go to previous message
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Gary wrote on Fri, 18 September 2015 04:46


James your amazing I would never of dreamed you grew up on a farm. My Grandpa had a farm and I use to love staying there in the summer.


I thought I'd told you I was raised in the country, as if all of Alabama isn't 'the country'. Don't let the word farm throw you, it wasn't like those Indiana farms with giant silos and miles of crops laid out in squares....it was less than a 100 acres with a few cows, pigs, and chickens, turkeys, ducks. goats, fields of vegetables, and a little boy that didn't appreciate fully what he had (that'd be me). I just wanted to be playing ball; not working all the time, as it seemed to my childish mind. But I now wouldn't swap my upbringing with anyone, it taught me a lot....it just took me a while to 'get it'. Smile


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