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Wed, 11 August 2010 13:02   |
 grandom
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ALWAYS LOOK ON THE INSIDE
I remember reading a story once about a man who was exploring some caves by the seashore. In one of the caves he found a canvas bag with a bunch of hardened clay balls. It was like someone had rolled up some clay and left them out in the sun to bake. They didn't look like much, but they intrigued the man so he took the bag out of the cave with him.
As he strolled along the beach, to pass the time, he would throw the clay balls one at a time out into the ocean as far as he could throw.
He thought little about it until he dropped one of the balls and it cracked open on a rock. Inside was a beautiful, precious stone. Excited, the man started breaking open the remaining clay balls. Each contained a similar treasure. He found thousands of dollars worth of jewels in the 20 or so clay balls he had left, then it struck him.
He had been on the beach a long time. He had thrown maybe 50 or 60 of the clay balls with their hidden treasure into the ocean waves. Instead of thousands of dollars in treasure, he could have had tens of thousands, but he just threw it all away.
You know sometimes, it's like that with people. We look at someone, maybe even ourselves, and we see the external clay vessel. It doesn't look like much from the outside. It isn't always beautiful or sparkling, so we discount it; we see that person as less important than someone more beautiful or stylish or well known or wealthy.
But we have not taken the time to find the treasure hidden inside that person. There is a treasure hidden in every one of us. We are wonderfully made. Not just our physical bodies, our spiritual selves, which are sometimes hidden from others by the *earthen vessel*
But if you take the time to get to know that person, and if you ask the Spirit to show you that person the way He sees them, then the clay begins to peel away and the brilliant gem begins to shine forth.
The glory of friendship is not the outstretched hand, nor the kindly smile, nor the joy of companionship; it is the spiritual inspiration that comes to one when he discovers that someone else believes in him and is willing to trust him with his friendship.
-- Author Unknown
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #8355 is a reply to message #7254] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 16:47 |
james
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I'm thinking in light of the 'new revelation'  that the caffeine in coffee is a drug we might ought to consider renaming this "The Happy Hour" room...No wait, alcohol is also a drug.
Maybe just 'The Break Room'...only kidding. 
I'm not making fun of anyone, just thought I'd share my "LOL" moment. While I personally don't 'ingest' caffeine or alcohol, I believe there is a big difference between having a coke/pepsi/soft drink/pop containing caffeine with a slice of pizza or a cup of coffee and sweet roll, versus taking a Valium to relieve anxiety.(or name the ailment and the drug of choice that's recommended to 'fix' it; and don't forget to read the 3 page warning about the side effects. ) It's the intent of the heart that The Lord is watching, does the person regard their body as The Temple of The living God where The Holy Spirit resides? (I Corinthians 3:16-17) Remember what Jesus said of the Pharisees and hypocrites concerning cleaning the 'outside' of the cup when the inside remainded dirty.
And we can't take Matthew 15:11 out of context to justify not taking care of our bodies, eating and drinking whatever without repercussion. The law of sowing and reaping is both a spiritual as well as physical truth. Once again, it's our hearts that Jesus is concerned with, are we trusting in Him and proving it by our actions (obedience), or have we bought into the "everything in moderation" mindset?
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #8357 is a reply to message #8355] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 18:03 |
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william
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Funny...
Or you could just 're-interpret' the Coffee Break area as clean break from coffee!
Seriously though, I think that a case can be made that the usage defines whether or not something is 'occult'. Diviner's read tea-leaves; that doesn't make tea-leaves occult. But when used by an occultic practitioner... that's a different story. I think the same thing would apply to the discussion in Bible Issues.
Chemical concoctions aren't necessarily evil per se, but when they are used by occultic practitioners to effect some magical result they cease to be merely a natural substance and take on the character of those who are practicing the divination.
We aren't after a 'new-doctrine' but we are attempting to better understand whether or not the 'doctrine' we've embraced is one that can stand up to the Berean-like scrutiny of those who want to present absolute truth when representing the Gospel of Truth to others.
Blessings,
William
[Updated on: Sat, 15 October 2011 18:06]
I want to believe!
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #8359 is a reply to message #8358] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 19:54 |
james
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Believe me, I don't need a 'pick-me-up' of a morning, I'm up around 4:30-5:00am and out walking a 3 mile trek by 6-7 ish, then go to the fitness center and work out for 45 minutes, also play tennis every other day. Can you imagine what a jolt of caffeine would do for me? 
I've been called 'hyper' more than once in my life, though I do see a bit of winding down now that I'm officially a senior citizen.
What's sad is, if I liked coffee, I could now get it free at most fast food restaurants...Yep, truely sad.
I do love the aroma of the grinding of the whole roasted beans and the brewing of the coffee.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #8361 is a reply to message #8360] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 21:50 |
james
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Since wine is mentioned in The Bible, and Jesus seemed to have no problem with providing more once they had depleted their supply at the wedding, maybe we could name this the "Wine Cellar". We could keep a few bottles around for 'communion', or in case anyone got a 'tummy ache'.
Only problem for me is, I never tasted a wine that I liked... Maybe if I spent more than $1.49 (Boone's Farm, 1970) or $1.99 (Thunderbird, 1972) my palate might learn to appreciate the 'good stuff'. Anybody want to spring for a bottle of 1964 Rothchild? Shouldn't run more than a few hundred thousand dollars.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #9413 is a reply to message #9412] |
Fri, 29 March 2013 14:19 |
james
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Ha! Ha!...
"Just put a little honey in it to make it healthy."
O.K. I got that covered, honey is my sweetner of choice.
"no-can-do, not unless you ditch the de-caf and get some real coffee."
Alright, what brand you like?
"I like tea"
So do I; the green organic decaf, fresh brewed, flavored with lemon and honey.
"Ditch the decaf..."
Why don't we just keep some of both on hand? You wouldn't be able to stay around me if I got a caffeine buzz going.
"If you want to try a really good cup, buy some Kona Coffee. It's quite expensive, about $40 a pound."
I'll start saving up for it, maybe I can write it off as a business expense.
"Free coffee, is free coffee."
Dick, Gary, Tom, and Jman...ya'll are welcome to stop in as well...or anyone for that matter. 
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“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10298 is a reply to message #10297] |
Thu, 14 November 2013 15:27 |
james
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| Gary wrote on Thu, 14 November 2013 02:34 |
Even though I have not had a cup of coffee yet.
I wanted to say the Lord helped me tremendously yesterday. I Praise Him for that. It's awesome to "know" when the Lord is doing something for you personally in your life.
Just giving God the Glory here, He is worthy.
Gary
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He IS worthy! Amen. It is awesome to "know" when God is doing things in our lives. It is also awesome to know that He is doing it out of His great Mercy/Love/Grace for us, because we don't 'deserve' anything from Him, yet ..."for God SO LOVED the world..."
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10654 is a reply to message #10653] |
Fri, 13 December 2013 23:14 |
sparkles
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You probably don’t enjoy the cold as much as you could because you don’t live in an area where there is snow. We have about a foot of snow and another 4-6” coming tomorrow. Too bad, I wish it would be more like 6-9” coming, but maybe next time. It is really enjoyable to go out and shovel the driveway while it snows, or after dark when it is real quiet outside. There is just something peaceful and refreshing being outside in the cold and snow. Usually about the end of August I start counting the weeks to winter and snow. As soon as the last pretty, fall leaf is off the tree I say: Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow! My dog loves the snow also. He runs and puts his whole head in the snow, kinda like a snow plow. It could snow everyday in the winter as far as I am concerned, but I guess a few sunny days scattered in helps keep some people’s spirits up.
I thought about a couple verses in the Bible that speaks of snow, which lead me to read the whole chapter of: Psalm 51:1-19
Thanks Gary for bringing up how nice snow is.
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Sat, 14 December 2013 14:36 |
james
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Hey, I LOVE seeing the snow, it's beautiful. I just don't like cold...it hurts me body<grin>
But the comparison of our cleansing by The Blood of Jesus, removing our sins, making us white as snow...that's awesome to think upon...Thanks, Sue.
We've had steady rain since midnight, but at least it's supposed to return to 'seasonal temps' after the rain passes.
Hey Gary! I like the idea of baking cookies, I just might do that today and share with my neighbors...Sounds like a plan.<grin> Too bad ya'll live so far away. LOL
BTW: Do people still make 'snow ice cream'? I remember making it as a kid, it seemed SOOOO good.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10687 is a reply to message #10683] |
Fri, 27 December 2013 12:12 |
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Gary
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Join me here for a minute for a hot cup of coffee. I read a quote in a book recently that said; "Instant Coffee is of the devil", LOL, well I got a chuckle out of that one.
I was reading in John and ran across several scriptures that were interesting. In John 5: we read:
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John 5:1 After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 2 Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, which is called in Hebrew, Bethesda, having five porches. 3 In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water. 4 For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had.
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I find it fascinating that there existed a pool that an Angel would come down and stir the water and when someone entered it they were healed.
I don't know if this pool is mentioned in the OT, How did this all come about would be interesting to know the history of how it got started.
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5 Now a certain man was there who had an infirmity thirty-eight years. 6 When Jesus saw him lying there, and knew that he already had been in that condition a long time, He said to him, “Do you want to be made well?”
7 The sick man answered Him, “Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up; but while I am coming, another steps down before me.”
8 Jesus said to him, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” 9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked.
And that day was the Sabbath.
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Jesus asked this man a simple question; Do you want to be made well?
The man answers him with why he was not able to get to the pool when the water was troubled. You would of thought he would of said, yes, to the question.
In spite of his answer, Jesus says, rise, take up your bed and walk.
The Bible goes on to say, the man was "immediately" healed then he got up and took up his bed and walked. He was just healed, by the spoken word of Jesus.
Think about that for a moment.
Thirdly, I noticed a lot of major healing took place on the Sabbath (not all of course), which always infuriated the Pharisees. They were obsessed with how and when someone was to be healed. It just seems strange that they were not rejoicing with everyone else. Of course we know they were blinded with their rules.
I did not want to take away from the first fact though, that, there was a pool which an angel would "stir the waters" and people were healed of all kinds of diseases. Still I find it puzzling how that practice got started.
Hope you enjoyed this as much as me. The Bible is the revealed Will of God how awesome is that.
Gary
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10688 is a reply to message #10687] |
Fri, 27 December 2013 14:38 |
james
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I might have a cup of coffee this morning when the office opens...
I find it fascinating how The Holy Spirit times things in our lives. I too was reading in John 5 earlier this morning and was thinking about the whole encounter. The instruct by Jesus to..." sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee" was what I was pondering. I take from that statement that his sickness was the results of sin? Or, did He mean sin would cause a loss of his healing? I just went to a couple commentaries about the pool, but decided they weren't that informative.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10690 is a reply to message #10687] |
Sat, 28 December 2013 14:12 |
james
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| Gary wrote on Fri, 27 December 2013 06:12 |
I find it fascinating that there existed a pool that an Angel would come down and stir the water and when someone entered it they were healed.
Gary
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I picked up a copy of "The Revell Concise Bible Dictionary" at the local Christian thrift store yesterday and while reading in it this morning I found a reference to the 'pool of Bethesda'. This book says that some of the manuscripts didn't have what is known as verse 4 about the 'troubling of the water or the angel tradition'. Acording to one account, in the 19th century, archaeologist discovered the remains of a pool fitting the discription in John's Gospel. I don't know which modern translations doesn't include v4.
I do see from your post in the 'angel' thread that it's got you thinking...lol
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10691 is a reply to message #10690] |
Sun, 29 December 2013 11:58 |
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Gary
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| james wrote on Sat, 28 December 2013 09:12 |
| Gary wrote on Fri, 27 December 2013 06:12 |
I find it fascinating that there existed a pool that an Angel would come down and stir the water and when someone entered it they were healed.
Gary
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I picked up a copy of "The Revell Concise Bible Dictionary" at the local Christian thrift store yesterday and while reading in it this morning I found a reference to the 'pool of Bethesda'. This book says that some of the manuscripts didn't have what is known as verse 4 about the 'troubling of the water or the angel tradition'. Acording to one account, in the 19th century, archaeologist discovered the remains of a pool fitting the discription in John's Gospel. I don't know which modern translations doesn't include v4.
I do see from your post in the 'angel' thread that it's got you thinking...lol
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I looked over at Wikipedia after reading your post, and come to the conclusion no one knows.
They said:
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The Pool of Bethesda has been an area of controversy for Christian historians and archaeologists alike. According to the Gospel of John, Bethesda was a swimming bath (Greek: κολυμβήθρα kolumbethra) with five porticos (translated as porches by older English Bible translations).
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Here's their conclusion:
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This archaeological discovery proved beyond a doubt that the description of this pool in the Gospel of John was not the creation of the Evangelist. It reflected an accurate and detailed knowledge of the site. The Gospel speaks of (a) the name of the pool as Bethesda; (b) its location near the Sheep Gate; (c) the fact that it has five porticos; with rushing water. All these details are corroborated through literary and archaeological evidence affirming the historical accuracy of the Johannine account.
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I do think its interesting that it is mentioned in scripture. Presently its in the muslim quarter of the Old City in Jerusalem (The pool), remember the city is divided up into four quarters, I think one is Jewish, one Muslim, one Christian, and I don't remember who is in the last quarter or section of this city. We went all through the Old City when my wife and I went to Jerusalem. I wished I would of paid attention more at the time but it was all new to us. If I ever go back to Israel I am going to look at the Bible and see what it says about every area I am at. The professor who led our group would constantly remind us to look around remember where your at this is where Jesus walked and lived. There was so much going on at the time, trying to take it all in was a task.
Visitors can go into any quarter as there are a lot of gift shops with hand made goods, food, etc.
The pool of Bethesda is a now empty fairly deep hole with stone walls on the sides. I also read what you stated about some manuscripts leave out that portion of scripture. I think the KJV includes those scriptures.
I don't know if you read the "Out of Zion" series by Bodie Thoene, but she did a lot of research and incorporated a lot of history of the old city in Jerusalem in those fiction books. I did enjoy her books once you start them you want to read all night.
Hey I might go over and reread that world government post by Marilyn, I'm not entirely convinced on this Assyrian world leader. I want to look at the scriptures she gave on this.
There was some articles going around that said; the Antichrist might be gay. What next huh? They said, Because of the scripture that says he has no desire for women, they came to this conclusion. I don't know if we'll have every detail on him but it won't take a rocket scientist to figure out who he is once he comes on the world scene.
I don't know for sure about him being Assyrian, though. I think Jeanne Dixon predicted he would come from an Egyptian (Arab) background, and for some reason a lot of Christian books were quoting this false prophetess. I have been thinking about this and looking at the world scene a little differently.
I guess we won't be getting anymore goodies from Australia to chew on, so I'm going to check out the old posts. LOLOL
In other news, LOL, have you noticed in scripture every time they mention tax collectors, it's along with the word sinners as if it was a different class or something.
For instance it says He was with tax collectors and sinners. I'm a little puzzled about the wording here, why not say he was with sinners. But they always throw in tax collectors like it was something different. Was it because they worked for the Roman government?
I keep running across this in scripture and wondered why bring out this one profession above all others.
Gary
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| Re: Taking a coffee break... [message #10707 is a reply to message #10706] |
Tue, 07 January 2014 01:17 |
sparkles
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Hello Gary,
I was wondering how you were doing down in Indiana. Here in Michigan we also have about -3 for low and -25+ wind chill.
So much has been cancelled here: all the schools(today and tomorrow), the US Bankruptcy Court, US Federal Court, colleges,
Social Security Office, and a whole lot more. I think there were over 800 closures in the West Michigan area. We got about
13 inches of snow in the last couple days, and now we have the arctic blast for a few days. I must admit, I am really enjoying the snow. I love winter, but unfortunately in a few days we are going to start having days in the mid to high 30's, which will melt a lot of the snow.
Being in this weather makes me so thankful for a warm home, a snowblower, a car, good health so I can shovel and snowblow the snow, safety walking and driving, my dog being warm amd safe, as well as family members that live elsewere around here being warm and safe.
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