| President Donald J Trump [message #14174] |
Thu, 07 November 2024 21:13  |
 james
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I was curious as to others thoughts on the election in America for President, I'm not trying to stir or make controversy just wondered what others might have to say about it.
Especially I'm wondering about what the people of Canada think...(Mark Lederman)
In God's sovereign plan he put Trump back in office for a purpose, is it to lead America back to God , or part of His plan for judgment against America? I pray it's a return to godliness. There are spiritual deficiencies in our nation and our churches that seem to me to be sufficient enough to bring on God's wrath at any time.
While it'd be great for inflation to get controlled, the boarder secured, the economy back, keep us out of wars, ect. I believe the more pressing needs are concerning morality, the abortion issue, gender confusion, same sex marriage, addictions, ect.
A president can work to make laws governing these kinds of issues but hearts have to change to bring about godly changes.
Honestly I was afraid Harris would win, God didn't allow that, I hope we can see His mercy in this.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: President Donald J Trump [message #14176 is a reply to message #14175] |
Thu, 07 November 2024 22:39  |
james
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Without researching my off the cuff response I'd say there hasn't ever been a Christian nation, while Israel was established by God and He literally dwelt among them at times, there were always rebellion against Him in one way or another. I believe we're a nation that has Christians living in it but we're not a Christian nation.
I'm sure many people in other countries are really shaking their heads at Americans because all they have is the various median sources for their information, and they are as slanted toward liberalism as they can get.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: President Donald J Trump [message #14177 is a reply to message #14174] |
Fri, 08 November 2024 17:36 |
 Mark L
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The next four yrs are going to be interesting to say the least. The view from here is people cannot understand how this could happen. The sky is going to fall (as we were told) so our leaders are preparing to deal with that. Not my view of course. Our conservative party here is miles ahead of the opposition. Its highly likely they will form the govt in the election next year. If so it will be for the same reasons Trump got elected. The elites are completely out of touch with the rest of the country.
I think some of the legal issues were politically motivated. The NY cases for sure. And who ever heard of 10 million and 100 million dollar judgements in defamation cases. Because he lied about a women he molested. They were out to get him. Of course it didn't succeed as he got elected.
Dan 4/17 says that the Most High rules in the kingdoms of men and he sets the basest of men over them. In some ways he is the basest of men. He certainly courted the christian vote. For the most part he returned that favor last time around. Will he do it again now that he doesn't need it? Who knows. One good thing could be said about him from a US point of view is he is very US centric. Determined to put America first. Concerning Tariffs etc that may or may not be good.
If he had had a second term much of the turmoil in the middle east probably wouldn't be happening. He had Iran contained and facilitated a peace agreement with some of Israels neighbors (Abraham accords) His peace plan for Israel/Palestine was genius in its simplicity. Bring tourism industry business into the Palestine /Gaza doing an end run around the militants. It was sabotaged of course by the world media the Palestinian leadership and all the hate Israel types around the world. But it would have worked. When people have hope and jobs and a future for them and their families it would sideline the terrorists. No one is going to jeopardize tourist dollars when they are on every corner.
The question though for both America and the middle east is what are Gods plans? America has to be removed in some way as Israels backer. I've opined at length on that here on O/O. Will Trump facilitate that? Turn his back on Israel. No idea. I think he capable. The same as his courting the christian vote. Will he repay that like he did last time. No idea.
In God's sovereign plan he put Trump back in office for a purpose, is it to lead America back to God , or part of His plan for judgment against America?
To me a lot depends on where we are in the end times and Gods purposes for America. Danial's advice to Nebuchadnezzar was to turn to Godliness. Doing so in America would probably bring a temporary putting off of judgement. My opinion is that while endtime events Gog and Magog and judgement on America (and the rest of us) are on the horizon they're not here yet. I believe that prayer will yet prevail
[Updated on: Fri, 08 November 2024 20:52]
You can read
"Meanderings on Scripture by Mark
https://mlederman.substack.com/
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| Re: President Donald J Trump [message #14178 is a reply to message #14177] |
Fri, 08 November 2024 17:42 |
Mark L
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One other thought that I had was Trumps health. I've read reports that he is not in good health. If he were to die or be disabled in office that would being Vance in. Which would change everything. He would have 8- 12 yrs. He could very well be the one who makes things happen in America and the world. Its been on my mind for some reason.
You can read
"Meanderings on Scripture by Mark
https://mlederman.substack.com/
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| Re: President Donald J Trump [message #14179 is a reply to message #14177] |
Sat, 09 November 2024 12:18 |
james
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Thanks for your thoughts Mark, you seem better informed than many Americans, it's hard to find reliable unbiased news sources here. All the networks are heavily leaning to the left and their agenda, you could see and hear it in the election coverage, they didn't try hard to hide their bewilderment over what was happening as the vote tallies came in, they were heartbroken.
I'm not a defender of President Trump's lifestyle and moral decisions, his inability to be humble or turn the other cheek in matters of verbal attacks or just words written, but he has , in the past anyway, shown to be a far better leader of this nation than anyone since RR.
As to how it all fits into God's plan as the end approaches, that's the question we'll have to see play out in world events.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: President Donald J Trump [message #14180 is a reply to message #14178] |
Sat, 09 November 2024 12:19 |
james
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That's something that could be a game changer for sure, not that I think it's all a game.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: President Donald J Trump [message #14182 is a reply to message #14177] |
Mon, 11 November 2024 04:58 |
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william
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Mark L wrote on Fri, 08 November 2024 17:36The question though for both America and the middle east is what are Gods plans? America has to be removed in some way as Israels backer. I've opined at length on that here on O/O.
US involvement might be limited until January... kinda in an absentee state right now!
Blessings,
William
I want to believe!
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