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The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #693]

Wed, 19 September 2007 05:20

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Michael The Disciple
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Several times I heard Bro Freeman mention it. Im sure I saw a copy of it.I discussed it with a friend who was very faithful to the body.

It has been questioned that such a document existed. Any formers members remember it? You had to be in full agreement with it to be a member.

Maybe it was not TEN points. It may have been another number but the point is anyone remember it? How about what they were?

[Updated on: Wed, 19 September 2007 05:21]

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #695 is a reply to message #693]

Sat, 22 September 2007 02:54

Michael The Disciple
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Hmmmm no one who reads this forum was part of Faith Assembly in the early 80's? I am surprised. No one wants to comment on this? It is not uncommon for groups to have a statement of faith. I have one myself!

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #696 is a reply to message #695]

Sat, 22 September 2007 03:13

william
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Just busy Michael...

Yes there was a statement of faith, but it wasn't anything that you or any other bible-believing Christian wouldn't accept. If I remember correctly, it was basically just a list of ten things that categorized the NT Church in Scripture verse format. As I recall this one was the most controversial:

1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Blessings,
William

I want to believe!

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #697 is a reply to message #696]

Sat, 22 September 2007 04:07

Michael The Disciple
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Ahhh thanks friend. Thats all I was basically looking for. One man on the board was questioning my assertion that there was a ten pointer that all had to agree to.

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #698 is a reply to message #693]

Sat, 22 September 2007 11:54

JWBTI
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Michael,

I stand corrected, Thanks Moulder....

I guess they were so basic that I didn't remember them or
have any reason to criticze them.

Sorry Michael

Ron

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #699 is a reply to message #698]

Sat, 22 September 2007 12:16

william
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Well, as you can imagine, HEF wasn't about to put out a statement of agreement that could be misinterpreted... that is why it was so basic. I want to say it was all just scripture verses, but there probably was a framing of the statement and then the supporting verses.

Trust me; it was a shock to hear that to be a part of Faith Assembly you had to be in agreement with this paper. But, when the night was over and the "paper" had been explained, and we saw that it was merely agreeing to what we all were already agreeing to be the final authority... i.e. the Bible... we relaxed, and the issue was only rarely mentioned after that.

Blessings,
William

I want to believe!

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #700 is a reply to message #693]

Sat, 22 September 2007 14:33

Michael The Disciple
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JWBTI,

No problem Bro. I didnt come here to be an adversary to Faith Assembly people. Altho my relationship with FA was not as close as many of you it was important to me.

I was condemned to Hell by one Preacher simply for having any association with FA at all. And even tho I did not have full agreement with HF on some foundation issues I have not been so challenged into the overcomers experience by anyone since then with maybe one ot two exceptions.

Also as time is available to discuss Biblical issues if there is any interest. My agenda is the same as any disciple's. To present every man perfect in Christ. Mike

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #702 is a reply to message #695]

Mon, 24 September 2007 18:14

Duncan
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Michael,
I was at FA in Indiana from 1978 -1986. My father was one of the regular preachers on Sunday morning. I do not remember any such statement(which doesn't mean anything since I was a teenager when we moved).

I called my mother this morning and asked her if she remembered anything like that, and she couldn't either. The only thing she remembered was the scripture on the wall in the main entrance of the building that said "we should all be of the same mind and same judgement."

My mother was going to ask my Dad tonight if he remembered anything.

Not questioning you. Just letting you know what I know/remember.

Duncan

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #705 is a reply to message #702]

Tue, 25 September 2007 05:08

Michael The Disciple
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Yes it did exist. I really considered becoming a member at one point. But when presented with the fact that I had to agree with Bro. Freeman on every issue I knew I could not in good conscience. It is odd to me though that people who were members dont remember it as they all had to agree with it.

But again time does fade memories and some may have to be prodded a bit to recall this. The scripture from 1 Cor. 1:10 as I recall was on the front part of the building as if behind the pulpit on one side. On the other side I think was Mark 11:23-24.

Does that sound right?

But it was also point 10 on the "agreement pledge" as I will call it. You had to agree to the first nine and agree not to criticize Faith Assembly's ministry.

[Updated on: Tue, 25 September 2007 05:12]

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #711 is a reply to message #705]

Tue, 25 September 2007 18:10

Duncan
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Michael,

I just got off the phone with my Dad (who was one of the ministers at FA in Indiana) and asked him if he remembered any doctrinal statement from FA. He was very certain that he had never been given, or even seen such a statement.

As I said before, I am not calling into question what you may have received. I'm just pointing out that it may not have been something that was widespread.

Thanks!

Duncan

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #713 is a reply to message #711]

Wed, 26 September 2007 04:23

Michael The Disciple
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Duncan,

Very strange. Oh well maybe some day some one else will weigh in on it. As far as widespread if I am right at all EVERYONE had to agree with it to be a member.

By the way what is your Dads name?

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Re: The 10 Point Doctrine Statement [message #715 is a reply to message #713]

Wed, 26 September 2007 13:24

Duncan
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His name is Joe Duncan.

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