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Manchild rapture wrong?? [message #9882]

Thu, 03 October 2013 14:56

wishing34 is currently offline

wishing34
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If the living believers will be changed in twinkling of an eye at the LAST TRUMP (I Cor 15:51-52)

and if . . .

if the LAST TRUMP is when when Jesus returns (end of trib) and raises the righteous dead (I Thess 4:15-17, Mat 24:31)
this is definitely AFTER the trib - Mk 13:24-27

and if . . .

if we which are alive at the rapture shall not precede (prevent in KJV) the righteous dead (I Thess 4:15)

then . . .

how can we preach an "overcomer/manchild" rapture at any time prior to the end of the trib?

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Remember that a big part of our pride, elitism, and "specialness" 30 years ago was because
we were the overcomers - a special class of believers being raised up to deliver groaning
creation after the "overcomer's rapture." If the overcomer's rapture was a wrong teaching
then our entire self definition was wrong, and a major, major focus of our teachings was wrong.

Also we were content to not worry ourselves about the missing signs ans wonders because
they were not for today (sounds very denominational doesn't it). They were to be part of
the future "greater works ministry" that we said would occur after the overcomer/Manchild
rapture.

Also we expected to be raptured out of the 7 yr trib
(Rev 3:10 does not have to mean this. Could just mean kept safe.)
If we ever find ourselves in the trib we would be shocked and possibly doubting things.

Jman

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At the time of this post . . .

FA, the satellites, the spinoffs,and the FA diaspora have been having church
without apostles for 41 years and 276 days.
Initial start date 1/1/72

Recommended: No faith stands that strongly impact our (our children's) lives until we figure out
why the signs and wonders are missing. Something is wrong.

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	Manchild rapture wrong?? By: wishing34 on Thu, 03 October 2013 14:56
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: james on Thu, 03 October 2013 19:05
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: Gary on Thu, 03 October 2013 20:18
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	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: Marilyn Crow on Thu, 03 October 2013 23:56
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: wishing34 on Fri, 04 October 2013 01:36
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	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: wishing34 on Fri, 04 October 2013 11:12
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	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: wishing34 on Wed, 06 November 2013 23:25
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	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: GWB on Sat, 09 November 2013 12:55
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	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: william on Sat, 09 November 2013 16:20
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	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: GWB on Sat, 09 November 2013 21:36
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: william on Sun, 10 November 2013 04:36
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: Gary on Tue, 12 November 2013 20:57
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: Marilyn Crow on Sat, 09 November 2013 21:08
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: Marilyn Crow on Mon, 04 November 2013 22:46
	Re: Manchild rapture wrong?? By: Michael R on Mon, 04 November 2013 23:51
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