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Sad to say this is a quite accurate parody of the contemporary/emergent/modern hip church of today, especially here in America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RJBd8zE48A
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8533 is a reply to message #8446] |
Tue, 01 November 2011 03:01 |
james
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Christian church teams up with high priestess of Isis...
Famous denomination welcoming paganism with guided meditations.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=360365
Where are men like Elijah today? This blasphemous mess wouldn't be tolerated by godly men in the days of righteousness. But no wait, this is politically correct amerika with anything goes (under the covering of religious freedom and constitutional 'rights')...
Last days for those living in a daze...Wake-up!
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8746 is a reply to message #5975] |
Wed, 11 January 2012 03:04 |
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Greetings,
I just heard a MP3 and the minister referred to this verse:
1Co 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's
wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
And the minister said that it meant that even though a man is not strong as a public speaker
God can make his words be heard by the people – basically meaning God can make his words
be effective even though the man is weak as a public speaker.
The minister completely missed the meaning of the verse which is
that Paul ministered with signs and wonders.
If the minister cannot recognize the signs and wonders in the church in the Scriptures
then how shall he and the people expect signs and wonders in the churches today?
Jman
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At the time of this post . . .
FA, the satellites, the spinoffs,and the FA diaspora have been having church
without apostles for 40 years and 10 days.
Initial start date 1/1/72
[Updated on: Wed, 11 January 2012 03:19]
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| Re: Last Days [message #8810 is a reply to message #8311] |
Wed, 15 February 2012 19:06 |
james
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I'm not that easily shocked or left speechless, but today I'm just shaking my head in amazement. I woke earlier than normal today and turned on the TV (about 4:30am) and came across a guy on the religious channel named E. Benard Jordan. He claims to be not only a prophet, but he says he's a MASTER PROPHET ; and for a $200 seed sown into 'him' anyone watching could get a personal prophecy from him(as well as a CD that help one fulfill their destiny).
He quoted II Chronicles 20:20 several times with the emphasis one the second part. "...Believe in The LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." He dropped the names of Hollywood stars and celebrities as people to whom he had prophecied to and how successful their lives were now due to his prophecies.
I looked him up(I had never heard of him before this morning) and found that for just $3000 I could become a prophet as well. Just think, being mentored by a 'master prophet'. No wonder it's so hard to interest people in The Kingdom of God, they think people like this (and hundreds more on these 'religious tv channels') are what Christianity is all about..."Give me, give me, give me, and you'll prosper, prosper, prosper."
Yes it reveals the greed in people (both the deceiver and the deceived), but it also is one of the biggest false doctrines being propagated in these last days.And I think it's more prevalent in Charismatic circles than anywhere else in the Harlot System of man. I read of godly men of old who cut down the groves to false gods and tore down pagan alters; how Jesus, filled with righteous indignation, drove out the moneymakers from the temple. It makes me want to scream from the roof tops..."Frauds, Liars, Charlatans, Fleecers of the sheep, Deceivers, FALSE PROPHETS...RUN PEOPLE! RUN!"
[Updated on: Wed, 15 February 2012 20:48]
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8812 is a reply to message #8810] |
Thu, 16 February 2012 21:50 |
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James this one only cost $20.00
Blasphemy Night at St. George’s Church
Anglicans in Canada must have been jealous of Presbyterians in the USA prancing around in animal costumes and calling it a worship service. They pondered and pondered, and finally up with something worse. The other night at St. George’s Anglican Church in St. Catherines, Ontario, a band of giggling pagan priestesses staged The Vagina Monologues (admission, $20): and they performed it at the altar......
http://www.newswithviews.com/Duigon/lee135.htm
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:4-5 (KJV)
Ron
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| Re: Last Days [message #8814 is a reply to message #8813] |
Fri, 17 February 2012 00:08 |
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Yep...Main Street USA
From our local paper Van Wert,Ohio
Countryside Chapel hosts murder mystery
Countryside Chapel and Fortney Enterprises will soon unveil the brand new murder mystery comedy, Who Killed Pastor Deadbody?
This hilarious family-friendly whodunit performance will be on Saturday, March 3, at 7:30 p.m.
Countryside Chapel is located four miles west of Convoy on Convoy Road (6072 Mentzer Church Road, Convoy) In lieu of an admission fee, the church is asking for non-perishable food donations for the local food pantry.
POSTED: 02/15/12 at 1:29 am. FILED UNDER: Church, Lifestyles
So Sad!
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Tim 4:3-4 (KJV)
Ron
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| Re: Last Days [message #8815 is a reply to message #8814] |
Sun, 19 February 2012 14:50 |
james
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Friday morning I saw a man on the Inspiration Network named 'Dr' Todd Coontz who was using numbers as his way of getting money. He said God told him while working out on a treadmill that the number 273 was a special number. He went on to explain that the 2 meant agreement(Matt.18, two agreeing); 7 means divine number (God's #); 3 means Holy Trinity or resurrection(Jesus rose on 3rd day)...Added togethter they total 12 which means divine governance. Of course, why didn't I think of that? Sow the $273 seed and you will receive a 'miracle breakthrough'. Easy, just have the old credit card ready and Walla! Prosperity will overtake you, the curse of poverty will be broken, so he says.
I know there are watchdog groups out there and watchmen on the walls warning the sheep, yet still it continues. People will continue to give their last dollar in hopes of getting 'their' miracle(some are hoping for healings, others need financial relief, and some believe they are following the will of God for their lives and God is really speaking through these men...and some are greedy themselves and view the false prosperity message as a way to get <much like the lottery> without having to live the gospel message.
273...Pleeeze!
added later: I was googling this guy, Todd Coontz, and found some clips of him on YouTube begging for money.(there are a bunch using numbers given him by God, so he says.) I was reading the comments beneath the video and found one that should be read by every person who even 'thinks' of giving money to these people.
"Greedy lazy dogs, the only sowing that needs to be done is the sewing of their mouths shut."
[Updated on: Mon, 20 February 2012 01:26]
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8823 is a reply to message #8815] |
Wed, 29 February 2012 22:44 |
james
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I came across this article on Master Prophet E. Benard Jordan that was written 5 years ago. How many times do we see a man in ministry seemingly starting out with an anointing and calling only to fall into deception and heresy later as their ministry grew and MONEY became the focus.(not saying this is true with this guy; I was thinking of Oral Roberts and William Branham and others) btw: His son Manesseh Jordan, now a rising star on TBN is being proclaimed a 'prophet' as well.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2007/02/prophet_o r_heretic_either_way.php
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8833 is a reply to message #8021] |
Thu, 08 March 2012 17:59 |
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| james wrote on Wed, 06 July 2011 16:23 |
| james wrote on Wed, 15 June 2011 15:18 |
Judgment?
Harold Camping suffered a stroke last week that has left him with a problem, slurred speech. I've read where others are saying it's Gods' judgment against the false predictions he has made. I don't think so, I'm of the opinion that if God wanted him shut up, He'd have done it years ago, rather than after he had already made 2 false calculations/predictions. The radio station he owns has been running messages from their archives.
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Just an update on Harold Camping...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2& objectid=10736748
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Another update on Harold Camping...This one cause for rejoicing.(Maybe this is the reason The Lord didn't allow him to die when he had the stroke last summer, to allow him time to repent.)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/harold-camping-admits-sin- end-to-doomsday-predictions-70953/
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8906 is a reply to message #8905] |
Sun, 08 April 2012 13:31 |
james
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What happened? How did it get like this?...
As I grow older I find myself living in a society where there is no right from wrong; there are no standards whereby men live righteously; the 'church' world wanders aimlessly farther and farther away from the Word of God as false love, false doctrines, false prophets, and false christianity swallow up those unwilling to make a stand. Don't dare try shining light on these issues, don't dare try tearing down these false idols and altars that have been made a substitute of true worship and obedience.
It's a good thing Christianity isn't a popularity contest because no true Christian would ever get a vote. But, thank God for His mercy and grace, it's NOT a popularity contest and it's NOT for the faint of heart. We are called to be salt and light to this world,(and the institutional religious system of man called the 'church' seems to be in darkness as much as those who don't even 'profess' Christ) Pagan worship, traditions of man, idolatry, every sin known to man has infiltrated the church to the point people have no idea what Jesus is all about...die to self, crucified life, holiness, obeidence??? " What's your problem, discernment, what's that?" Easter bunnies, Santa Claus, Halloween; adultery, divorce, remarriage; homosexuality, gay marriage; false prophets, apostles, and doctrines; 100's of denominations, all paths lead to God, and 'judge not' love that is based on feelings and emotions...
Watchmen, prophets, John the Baptist... Yes, we definitely need them today, but WE have a responsibility regardless of the responses we get...speak the truth, in love, reprove the works of darkness. We should feel as Lot did, vexed by the unrighteous deeds surrounding us.(2Peter 2:7-8) Vexed day to day, willing to stand for righteousness, willing to die if necessary...Certainly willing to accept a little criticism from those blinded by the enemy. Wake us Lord, wake us.
VEX: grieve; afflict.
VEXATION: distressing thing.
VEXED: irritated; angered.
"Many tender-minded Christians fear to sin against love by daring to inquire into anything that comes wearing the cloak of Christianity and breathing the name of Jesus. They dare not examine the credentials of the latest prophet to hit their town lest they be guilty of rejecting something which may be of God.
They timidly remember how the Pharisees refused to accept Christ when He came, and they do not want to be caught in the same snare, so they either reserve judgment or shut their eyes and accept everything without question." A.W.Tozer (written decades ago)
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“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #8910 is a reply to message #8909] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 13:45 |
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We had the exact same kind of event up here in north alabama... it only cost $10k... not bad when you consider how many people were "touched". <grin>
I'm up for a new discussion--anything in particular?
Blessings,
William
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I want to believe!
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| Re: Last Days [message #9030 is a reply to message #8910] |
Tue, 17 July 2012 02:20 |
james
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As I read Psalms 74 I'm reminded of the times we live in, the last days, and how what was written then is revelant for today. With all the warnings throughout The Word against false teachers/prophets bringing reproach upon The Name of Christ. There are people flocking to 'where-ever' to see signs and wonders from 'who-ever' only to find out later they were deceived. Where are the true prophets of God? Where are the true signs and wonders? How long will God allow these men who say they're send of God to blaspheme His Holy Name?
"We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knoweth how long.
O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme thy name for ever?"Psalms 74:9-10
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9049 is a reply to message #9030] |
Tue, 14 August 2012 15:35 |
james
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I continue to see and hear these false prosperity preachers "prophesying" of how God is going to abundantly bless/restore/make great again, America and all Christians who "sow" into their ministry.
Where are the true prophets, teachers, watchmen? May their voices rise into one, to proclaim The Truth, to warn a slumbering people rather than the false hope and lies spoken today by these thieves and charlatans.
"His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant." Isaiah 56:10-12
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9052 is a reply to message #9051] |
Wed, 15 August 2012 02:00 |
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14Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
15Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
Dan 3:14-15 (KJV)
Is it True ? That there be some , that refuse to serve the gods of men, nor worship
The golden images that man has set up ? ( mans church system)
(Independent and denominational )
Yes ! It is true !
Now when the music starts, if you don’t give worship and admiration to the
Praise team and fall down and worship the image that man has made, they will
Cast you out you also.
Don’t forget your tithe an offering so we can support our golden images !
Oh, I forgot….we’ll be taking up a special offering for the praise team also !
They need the money so they can entertain us better, so dig deep!
So Sad !
Ron
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| Re: Last Days [message #9053 is a reply to message #9051] |
Wed, 15 August 2012 02:14 |
james
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Well I'm certainly no Hobart Freeman but I will say this; somebody is going have to answer for the blood of the American Indian's who were killed, their land taken, and being forced to live in poverty on reservations.
Yes, the black man has fared much better, they don't compare to what happened to the real Americans. That's not to excuse what the black race has gone through as trivial, but as mentioned, a black man has become president of this nation. The Indians have very little, apart from a few gambling casino's.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9064 is a reply to message #9053] |
Wed, 29 August 2012 19:58 |
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I have been reading along on JTBTV forum as posters are discussing whether or not Hurricane Isaac is God's judgment on New Orleans. One thing of intrest is the fact that it's almost to the day 7 years since Katrina hit and another thing is, the homosexual's are holding a huge party there this week(just as they were when Katrina hit in 2005) known as Southern Decadence New Orleans 2012.
It seems to some to be judgment, others see it as just the way it is...a storm. I read where someone at the Republican Convention in Tampa, Fl. is taking credit for 'praying' the storm away from Tampa so those fine 'God fearing, conservative, moral majority, christian, backbone of america, people' could have their convention without interruption. Saying stuff like, "The devil couldn't ruin this event, we're taking back america...".
So we (professing Christians) got some thinking Satan is behind the storm, and others believing it's God behind it bringing judgment on the homosexuals and those in New Orleans for not repenting during the past 7 years. Oh! and every one knows that Isaac means, 'to laugh'...so of course any prophetic/apostolic/discerner worth his/her salt knows God is 'laughing' last with this judgment.
Meanwhile, a lot of the midwest that desperatly needs rain will get some relief with the aftermath of the storm. (Guess who they'll be atributing it to?)
No wonder the churches are declining in membership, what is the unregenerate to think while observing 'christians' and their instability? Who'd want to become a part of that?
Do I think America is wicked? Yep! Should we as a nation repent? Yep! Will we? I guess that is the question of all questions.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9201 is a reply to message #9065] |
Wed, 12 December 2012 15:45 |
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12-12-12...Mayan Calendar?
I noticed someone speaking of the date today,12-12-12, and how long it would be until the numbers would line up like this again and it reminded me that this is supposed to be the year the world ends, according to the Mayan Calendar. The movie, Avatar, sparked a lot of interest in the Mayan Calendar and the Mayan Tree of Life, especially in the minds of the youth who watched it. Once again we see Satan at work deceiving hearts and minds, planting seeds...
I think the date the people who believe this are using is 12-21-12. On a newsclip they had a college professor who told his class of young students(who had bought into the doomsday pretictions of the Mayan Calendar) that they had better study for their finals anyway, just in case. Another person was stressed about whether or not to buy gifts for the pagan holiday...the newscaster said it shouldn't interupt the shopping season. That says it all, nothing gets in the way of 'the spirit of christmas'.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9313 is a reply to message #8815] |
Wed, 30 January 2013 16:11 |
james
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| james wrote on Sun, 19 February 2012 08:50 |
Friday morning I saw a man on the Inspiration Network named 'Dr' Todd Coontz who was using numbers as his way of getting money. He said God told him while working out on a treadmill that the number 273 was a special number. He went on to explain that the 2 meant agreement(Matt.18, two agreeing); 7 means divine number (God's #); 3 means Holy Trinity or resurrection(Jesus rose on 3rd day)...Added togethter they total 12 which means divine governance. Of course, why didn't I think of that? Sow the $273 seed and you will receive a 'miracle breakthrough'. Easy, just have the old credit card ready and Walla! Prosperity will overtake you, the curse of poverty will be broken, so he says.
I know there are watchdog groups out there and watchmen on the walls warning the sheep, yet still it continues. People will continue to give their last dollar in hopes of getting 'their' miracle(some are hoping for healings, others need financial relief, and some believe they are following the will of God for their lives and God is really speaking through these men...and some are greedy themselves and view the false prosperity message as a way to get <much like the lottery> without having to live the gospel message.
273...Pleeeze!
added later: I was googling this guy, Todd Coontz, and found some clips of him on YouTube begging for money.(there are a bunch using numbers given him by God, so he says.) I was reading the comments beneath the video and found one that should be read by every person who even 'thinks' of giving money to these people.
"Greedy lazy dogs, the only sowing that needs to be done is the sewing of their mouths shut."
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I realize this isn't ground breaking news and of little interest to anyone, but this morning I came across this same man, ONE YEAR LATER, running this SAME taped video on a religious channel...The same exact fresh, anointed, WORD from 'God'...
I was thinking, what with inflation and all, it's probably a better deal today than then(only $273 ) to get that special double anointed miracle of financial breakthrough...
My daily Bible reading has me in Jeremiah and today I was reading chapter 28 and how Hananiah prophecied a false prophecy that effected peoples lives(thinking that God was going to deliver them from Nebuchadnezzar in two years). Jeremiah said, "Amen: the Lord do so:...Nevertheless hear thou now this word ..." And Jeremiah then told Hananiah..."Hear now, Hananiah; The LORD hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie."
We're not short of prophets in these Last Days, they're everywhere...the problem is, they're False Prophets looking only to profit.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9330 is a reply to message #9313] |
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Thank you for the warning Brother. Learned about this many years ago through a teaching by Pastor Freeman. I stopped listening to people like Kenneth Copeland and those associated with him and mostly all tele-preachers.
Blessings,
Sharon
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| Re: Last Days [message #9366 is a reply to message #9330] |
Fri, 08 March 2013 19:00 |
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I know we've commented on 'the Emergent Church' and Brian McLaren and those who consider themselves "the new christians" and endorse these 'new' ideas as coming from God; (Rick Warren is in this group...Purpose Driven Life) but this really caught in my spirit as I read where McLaren is calling for a 5 year moratorium on making any pronouncements concering homosexuality and IF ALL homosexual behavior is always sinful. He says, "We aren't sure if or where lines are to be drawn nor do we know how to enforce with fairness whatever lines are drawn." So much for God's Word being The Standard whereby ministers judge whether or not actions are righteous or ungodly.
Why would the pastor of a mega-church, well know 'christian' author, conference speaker, church reformer <spoken with tongue in cheek>, make such anti-Bible statements? Well in October his son was married to another man and Brian McLaren lead the 'commitment ceremony'.
You know, by the standards many 'christian leaders' today go by, if they were back in the New Testament days and were addressing the church at Corinth concerning the man Paul had instructed them to disipline for sins of fornication; they'd probably say just let it ride for about 5 years (moratorium) and then see if they felt it was still a sinful act. Mercy, mercy, mercy!
Seems I recall another call for a moratorium about year or so ago...
To read the article go to:
http://www.holybibleprophecy.org/2012/10/01/emergent-leader- brian-mclaren-practices-what-he-preaches-by-elliott-nesch,
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9368 is a reply to message #9366] |
Sat, 09 March 2013 01:15 |
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A very good friend of mine has an awesome testimony.
They have been praying for their child in this area. The Holy Spirit fell on their loved one for three days. It was supernatural when you hear the testimony.
By themself, the loved one was caught up into the heavens. They saw spiritual warfare in the spirit., etc. They said that warfare is happening all of the time and all around everyone. This story is incredible. This person all alone and led by the HS, physically pulled this demon out of their body.
They got saved, spoke in tongues, got delivered, went to the heavens for three days, and they now are doing exploits on the streets.
I have learned to really care less what people think when over the top, supernatural stories are told. It is all real. To confess to be a Christian and not believe in over the top, supernatural stories, is ludicrous. The Bible is full of over the top stories, but I believe all of them.
I was reading in Mth where Jesus had just fed the thousands with two fish and five loaves of bread. Directly after this "crazy" incident, the followers of Jesus were flipping out because they were in a boat in a storm and they believed they belonged at the bottom of the lake.
About this time, Jesus walks *past* them while walking on the water by the boat that seems doomed.
The disciples don't even believe it could be "crazy" enough to be Jesus. They got their heads into it and called Jesus a ghost!!!
Jesus, of course, comes to the rescue and sits in the boat enjoying the calm waters with the disciple's brains discombobulated.
Jesus said that they were stressed out due to the "hardness" of their hearts. If you look up the word hardness in Strong's, it means "destitute in spirit." To not simply believe, walk in, and expect the supernatural is being destitute. After all, we were made and created to operate this way. Satan tries to distract us and tries to keep us in his material realm.
Demons are spirit and need a physical body. Animals have a body, but not a spirit. Humans have a body and spirit and satan and his demons want to inhabit humans in order to be more effective.
These dudes were not being rebellious (hard of heart.) They just could not wrap their heads around the supernatural. They could not be simple (like a kid) and let it happen. They had to figure it out. Soooo..... they tried to explain the miracle; it was a ghost. I kind of find this ironic, since a ghost is supernatural! (Demon) lol
People think they are going to a supernatural heaven, but still will not believe in supernatural, demonic activity while here on this earth. They can't even fathem that the devil has his army educated , demons and humans, for his demonic spiritual warfare. "Crazy," huh!?
Now, this delivered person goes into the dark places of this earth and ministers to prostitutes, witches, addicts, etc., to see them saved and delivered. One guy was on the way to murder somebody and handed them his bullets.
When I asked them about an anointing to do such exploits, they said they just believe and go when they are not working. This person is in the late 20's. They visited FA as a babe in the womb.
The healings and deliverance testimonies are awesome.....over the top.....here in the USA....in Atlanta. One person raised from the dead.
I am beginning to wonder why I am waiting for an anointing, or an apostle, for that matter. I think I just need to go do it!
"Through the mouth of babes....."
Glory to His name!!!
[Updated on: Sat, 09 March 2013 07:50]
Shalom,
GWB
"Be still and know that I am God."
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James Wrote: Why would the pastor of a mega-church, well know 'christian' author, conference speaker, church reformer <spoken with tongue in cheek>, make such anti-Bible statements? Well in October his son was married to another man and Brian McLaren lead the 'commitment ceremony'.
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We have so many extremes today taking place in the church world. On the one hand sin is welcome at the door while the church then uses signs and wonders incorporated as entertainment.
Jesus said, an adulterous and perverse generation seeks after signs.
I personally think when gay marriages are legalized that this will bring a wave of persecution to true believers.
If you don't accept everything and make excuses like the rest of the church world, they will call us bigots, racists, unloving, etc.
I think were in the first stages of the great falling away spoken of in scriptures. When the church world welcomes sin at the door and then makes excuses its a good indicator there is problems ahead.
Sin is welcome and then signs and wonders are sought after is a deadly mix.
Rick Warren, Tony Campolo, and other big name ministries are all on the same bandwagon.
Time is shorter then what most think!
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| Re: Last Days [message #9378 is a reply to message #9366] |
Fri, 15 March 2013 19:50 |
james
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Last Days...
Last week I posted a link to the article about Brian McLaren and his 'gay' son, who married another man.
Today Rob Portman, a Rebuplican Senator from Ohio reversed his position on same-sex marriage due to the revelation that his son is also 'gay'.
Again we see people, and not just everyday people, leaders of this nation, changing their standards based on their life's experiences and situations rather than standing on the Truth of God's Word.. Portman said he considered his Christian faith, which led him to decide that "in a way, this strengthens the institution of marriage." Yep, he did say that! And went on to say, "The overriding message of love and compassion that I take from The Bible, and certainly from the Golden Rule, and that fact that I believe we are all created by our maker, that has influenced me in terms of my change on this issue."
I'm not gay bashing nor do I have a lack of love for those involved in this lifestyle. Also I'm not blaming America's downward spiral just on homosexuals; there's plently of guilt to be laid at the feet of the 'hetrosexuals' as well. Living in adultery and fornication, living together without being married, are sins that if unrepented of will send a soul to Hell. But this issue, as some people call it, has taken over the last few years. I read somewhere???<so much for my journalist due diligence>  that the percent of Americans who support same-sex marriage has risen from 27% in 1996: to 37% in 2006: to 53% now.
O.K.! O.K.!I went Googling, and it was the Gallup Poll.<grin>
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/15/17323938-gop s-rob-portman-announces-support-for-same-sex-marriage
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9379 is a reply to message #9369] |
Mon, 18 March 2013 17:11 |
james
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| Alanbook wrote on Sat, 09 March 2013 05:40 |
When the church world welcomes sin at the door and then makes excuses its a good indicator there is problems ahead.
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It's not that I'm surprised more and more in positions of leadership are coming out in favor of same-sex marriage, it's their reasons. I see them refering to their faith as the change of heart and principles.
Hilary Clinton (a Democrat, so she's not as big a surprise as Portman who was a conservative republican) came out in support of 'gay-marriage' this weekend. She'll probably run for president in 2016 so she's getting on board now while the topic is in the news and on peoples minds.
Here's her justification for this position...
"Like so many others, my views have been shaped over time by people I have known and loved, by my experience representing our nation on the world stage, my devotion to law and human rights, and the guiding principles of my faith." Hilary Clinton
Once again, Biblical standards are ignored, that is why it is SO important to be grounded in God's Word for our standard, it doesn't change with 'our experiences and feelings'. I understand the 'human reasoning' side of it, people look back at the 60's and the Civil Rights Movement and try to equate the two, it's not the same issue. And it's not that the individuals shouldn't be treated with respect as we should treat all people as Jesus did.
I've really been blessed by A.W.Tozer's book on "The Pursuit of God"; it's Idolatry that's our problem, self on the throne instead of God. All these sins that so easily beset mankind, adultery, fornication, homosexuality, abortion, various addictions, ect. all can be traced back to SELF. "I" want to do it and 'nobody' is going to tell me what to do! God doesn't factor into most peoples lives unless someone is faced with something serious like an illness or they run short of money, then it's Oh God, please help me.
This is Grace, in spite of all our sins, trangressions, and iniquities, God still loves us enough to forgive us if we'll only turn unto Him and repent, cry out, weep and mourn, humble ourselves. (James 4:8-10)
As individuals we can only speak the truth in love, pray for those who haven't received Christ as Lord and Saviour yet, and be sure to press in for our own salvation and right relationship with God knowing that it's not enough to start the race well, we must finish it well. I'm convienced that if our eyes are single upon Jesus, gazing upon Him and hungering and thirsting for His Righteousness, we'll not be ashamed in that day.
“But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us,”
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| Re: Last Days [message #9380 is a reply to message #9379] |
Mon, 18 March 2013 19:37 |
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Call me apathetic, but I don't see what the policies of politicians or ultimately the policy adopted by the government (regarding gay marriage/etc.) has to do with the Church. Unless, that is, we still are equating the United States with a "Christian Nation".
I do agree with Gary that legalizing "gay" marriage might have an adverse affect on churches that refuse to adopt the I'm-ok-you're-ok preaching strategy, but beyond that --what business does the Church have in dictating governmental policy or for that matter dictating to the world the proper way to express their sinfulness?
I also agree with you, James, that when a political leader claiming to be a Christian misrepresents the truth of the Gospel, they do damage to the cause of true Christianity, but again, what can we do about that?
Do we really expect the world to reflect Christian values? Yes, it's nice when the two value systems coincide but more often than not it's unrealistic for us to have this expectation.
I know you two aren't expressing the flawed viewpoint that many seem to have about this and that your concern lies squarely with the way Christians have bought into the world's value system but let's face it, it is easy to jump on this, and every other bandwagon, that seeks to force morality on immoral people. These endeavors continue to consume the valuable time of the Christian.
I run into this kind of thinking on a regular basis and it is sometimes easier just to agree with them than try to explain the reasons that a re-definition-of-marriage-policy is not something that I'm going to waste time fighting.
It's kinda like the Prayer-in-School thing... how much time and how many resources have been wasted in battling this "enemy"... and where has it gotten us?
Remember the 10-commandments-in-the-Alabama-statehouse debate? Just think about all of the un-redeemable time that Christians will need to account for in that fiasco!
Anyway, just some random thoughts... (since I haven't posted in a while!)
Blessings,
William
I want to believe!
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| Re: Last Days [message #9381 is a reply to message #9380] |
Tue, 19 March 2013 15:58 |
james
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| william wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 13:37 |
Call me apathetic, but I don't see what the policies of politicians or ultimately the policy adopted by the government (regarding gay marriage/etc.) has to do with the Church. Unless, that is, we still are equating the United States with a "Christian Nation".
You're right, it doesn't have that much to do with 'the church', I wasn't attempting to imply that it does. And I sure don't think America is a "Christian Nation".
I do agree with Gary that legalizing "gay" marriage might have an adverse affect on churches that refuse to adopt the I'm-ok-you're-ok preaching strategy, but beyond that --what business does the Church have in dictating governmental policy or for that matter dictating to the world the proper way to express their sinfulness?
I also agree with you, James, that when a political leader claiming to be a Christian misrepresents the truth of the Gospel, they do damage to the cause of true Christianity, but again, what can we do about that?All I know to do is what we're instructed to do and that is pray for the leaders...Now I'll be the first to admit that I haven't been dilligent to do this [pray for the leaders] in the past, but the last few years I've felt burdened to do so. I'm not pointing out anything that's new to any discerning Christian [especially those regulars on OO], I'm just "Ranting/Raving" 
Do we really expect the world to reflect Christian values? Yes, it's nice when the two value systems coincide but more often than not it's unrealistic for us to have this expectation.
I know you two aren't expressing the flawed viewpoint that many seem to have about this and that your concern lies squarely with the way Christians have bought into the world's value system but let's face it, it is easy to jump on this, and every other bandwagon, that seeks to force morality on immoral people. These endeavors continue to consume the valuable time of the Christian.True, true, but it's AEA week and business is slow so...<grin> If I followed my heart I'd post the whole A.W.Tozer book "The Pursuit of God"...it's that inspiring to me, Really!
I run into this kind of thinking on a regular basis and it is sometimes easier just to agree with them than try to explain the reasons that a re-definition-of-marriage-policy is not something that I'm going to waste time fighting.Not that I 'think' you're disagreeing with or misunderstanding my point, but my point was to point out what was behind it all, SELF, and the importance of having the right standard guiding our lives, God's Word, not experiences and popular culture or what feels right(in our own sight).
It's kinda like the Prayer-in-School thing... how much time and how many resources have been wasted in battling this "enemy"... and where has it gotten us? Not too far.
Remember the 10-commandments-in-the-Alabama-statehouse debate? Just think about all of the un-redeemable time that Christians will need to account for in that fiasco!Yes I do, and no I didn't go with the assembly I attended then to 'protest' on behalf of "all God fearing Christians" as my peers insisted I do. But I do have plently of un-redeemable time to account for besides that.
Anyway, just some random thoughts... (since I haven't posted in a while!)Speaking of "posting in a while", I'm expecting Tom to share his definition of true Biblical faith on here any day now......
Blessings,
William
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Fri, 22 March 2013 01:59 |
sparkles
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James wrote:
It's not that I'm surprised more and more in positions of leadership are coming out in favor of same-sex marriage, it's their reasons. I see them refering to their faith as the change of heart and principles.
Hilary Clinton (a Democrat, so she's not as big a surprise as Portman who was a conservative republican) came out in support of 'gay-marriage' this weekend. She'll probably run for president in 2016 so she's getting on board now while the topic is in the news and on peoples minds.
Here's her justification for this position...
"Like so many others, my views have been shaped over time by people I have known and loved, by my experience representing our nation on the world stage, my devotion to law and human rights, and the guiding principles of my faith." Hilary Clinton
With all these people coming out and giving their stamp of approval to the homosexual agenda it
will only mean persecution and criticism of the Christian/person who takes a stand against
such wickedness. I believe we will continue to see more anti biblical beliefs being publicly endorsed
by people in positions of power. And unfortunately there will be those in the churches who will
cave under the pressure to be politically correct so as not to offend someone. The more we hear
the politicians and compromising ministers give their approval to the homosexual agenda and
the Emergent Church, the more important it is for true Christians to stand up against such errors
and deceptions. We need to pray for those who do stand in the pulpits today to take a stand for
righteousness and holiness. And to pray for God to raise up watchmen(like we have here on
Overcomers Online) to warn the people of God of the wolves in sheep clothing.
James, when you shared your post the verse that came to mind was: Psalm 119:11 “Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.”
The verses before these are: Psalm 119:9-10 “Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way?
by taking heed thereto according to thy word. With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not
wander from thy commandments.”
Our newspaper just said Rob Bell came out supporting same-sex marriage. The quote in the paper was:
I am for marriage. I am for fidelity. I am for love, whether it’s a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man, And I think the ship has sailed. This is the world we are living in, and we
need to affirm people wherever they are.”
At some point we wonder if some of these have gone too far and committed apostasy. They call evil
good, and take the clear teachings of God’s word and
twist them. How does this happen? 2 Thess. 2:10-12
They received not the love of the truth. And for this cause
God will send them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
It is critical that we love the truth and walk in it, so we can help others out of Satan's grasp, and be pleasing to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
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