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 Gary
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| GWB wrote on Thu, 12 December 2013 12:48 |
Gary,
When you first came back to this board, I talked to you about what had taken place. You stated, "You did not do anything wrong."
Have you changed your mind? What exactly are you accusing me of?
Jman and I have hashed it and we are fine.
I answered all of William's inquiries and have apologized for any misinterpretation.
Any "behind the scenes PM's were sent, it was to inquire if relationships were OK.
You are adding a lot of gas to the fire, now Gary.
Again, what exactly are you saying here and what are you accusing me of to where you are not happy as this matter stands?
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GWB,
Just lost my whole lousy post.
Calm down girl I was only stating to William it was not "two", but "eight" and a lot of it happened though emails and private messages.
My lands, you've been on an emotional roller coaster for a while here. It started when you was accusing Marilyn of anti-semantic language which never existed.
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Then it was Jman, William Wrote: Christians don't throw around curses at each other. You took Jman's comment, the one about Marilyn offering a slippery and crafty non-answer, to be something it was not.
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Now I'm being falsely accused here and putting words in my mouth.
It sounds like something is going on and your bringing your frustrations here on the board or your just wanting to pick a fight for no reason at all.
Don't read into the posts more then what they say.
If you need prayer were all here and will pray with you. Something is on your mind and I don't think its what is being written on this board, you don't seem your normal self.
Gary
[Updated on: Thu, 12 December 2013 19:20]
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| Re: New Order of Beings [message #10648 is a reply to message #10644] |
Thu, 12 December 2013 21:07 |
Marilyn Crow
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Sage,
You said,
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`I don’t see in scripture where we go to someone and tell them to apologize...`
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You may not realise it but that is part of reconciliation -
`He has committed to us the word of reconciliation..` (2 Cor. 5: 19)
`when we are slandered, we try to conciliate;..`(1 Cor.4 13 NAV)
` first be reconciled to your brother..`(Matt. 5: 24)
As regards the `Yes or No,` answer. You said -
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`To me this is a “Yes or No” answer..`
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How would you answer `Yes or No,` to `Do you still kick your cat?` it`s a trick question just like Jman`s about this so called new doctrine that I was supposed to unveil. But because there was no new doctrine how could I say `Yes or No.` Jman needed to ask me to explain what I was meaning, but he just jumped in & assumed wrong things & led a charge that has caused great difficulty for all.
Why I have specifically asked Jman for an apology is because that is the place that William said (& we all know it) is where we all meet, at the foot of the cross. It is the place of healing for all. where we get rid of our baggage.
Unless I am wrong in this then have you a new doctrine that I should know about?
I think the Holy Spirit again through James has said to all of us to seek our own forgiveness before God.
Together in Him, Marilyn.
[Updated on: Thu, 12 December 2013 21:09]
Marilyn C
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| Re: New Order of Beings [message #10649 is a reply to message #10648] |
Thu, 12 December 2013 22:26 |
Marilyn Crow
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Brothers & sisters in Christ,
I have sought the Lord & I believe I need to say that I am sorry that my words `New Order of Beings,` (meaning new creations / beings in Christ) have caused offense, which caused Jman to jump to conclusions thinking it was a new doctrine.
`Lord, I feel for my brothers & sisters who are hurting & thus reacting, may you come with your healing & restore your people to each other, in Jesus` name.`
Prayfully, Marilyn.
Marilyn C
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| Re: New Order of Beings [message #10650 is a reply to message #10648] |
Thu, 12 December 2013 22:54 |
sparkles
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You may not realise it but that is part of reconciliation -
`He has committed to us the word of reconciliation..` (2 Cor. 5: 19)
`when we are slandered, we try to conciliate;..`(1 Cor.4 13 NAV)
The verse before says: …being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it.
Matthew 5:44 “But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;”
Luke 6:27-29 “But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.”
Luke 23:34 “Then said Jesus, Father forgive them; for they know not what they do.”
Romans 12:14 “Bless them which persecute you; bless and curse not.”
Colossians 3:12-13 “Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels(heart) of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, if any man have a quarrel(complaint) against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do you.”
` first be reconciled to your brother..`(Matt. 5: 24) To me this means you go to your brother and say I am sorry, is there something I did to offend you. Not to demand an apology.
The message of Jesus is forgiveness, not demanding our rights. With the verses I quoted there is: we bless, we suffer the wrong, we love, we do good, we pray, we go the extra mile, we show mercy, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering, and forbearance.
When Stephen was being stoned he didn’t demand his rights or for judgment to be called down, but rather said Father forgive them.
Same with Jesus. Now don’t you think that same mind should be in us? If you feel you have been wronged then forgive and let God deal with the offending party. I don’t see reconciliation as demanding an apology from someone. Now in saying that, if I am wrong the Lord will show me.
As regards the `Yes or No,` answer. You said -
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`To me this is a “Yes or No” answer..`
How would you answer `Yes or No,` to `Do you still kick your cat?` it`s a trick question just like Jman`s about this so called new doctrine that I was supposed to unveil. But because there was no new doctrine how could I say `Yes or No.` Jman needed to ask me to explain what I was meaning, but he just jumped in & assumed wrong things & led a charge that has caused great difficulty for all.
I don’t see that, but if that is how you perceive it then that is how it will stand.
Why I have specifically asked Jman for an apology is because that is the place that William said (& we all know it) is where we all meet, at the foot of the cross. It is the place of healing for all. where we get rid of our baggage.
That is correct, you get rid of your baggage and you let God take care of the other person. Because if you have forgiven them for the wrong or perceived wrong, then it won’t bother you, but rather you will count it all joy for the Lord taking your baggage.
Unless I am wrong in this then have you a new doctrine that I should know about?
Not a new doctrine, but a new concept to some. Death to self, therefore not taking offense when someone says something. Or demanding what we consider our rights.
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| Re: New Order of Beings [message #10651 is a reply to message #10650] |
Fri, 13 December 2013 06:08 |
Marilyn Crow
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Sage,
I appreciate your concerns for me, as regards praying for those we think are persecuting us. This my husband & I have done regularly in what has been happening here.
You said -
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`first be reconciled to your brother..`(Matt. 5: 24) To me this means you go to your brother and say I am sorry, is there something I did to offend you..`
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Here are some examples of how I have tried to do this over this whole conversation.
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`Your quoting me out of context (Gary)
Sorry Gary, I don`t mean to quote you out of context (me)
I am very thankful to William who pointed out to me my error (me)
Thank you for the correction & help re KJ (me)
Sorry to have made such a confusion on my posts (me)
Sorry to cause such confusion (me)
Its easy to talk about dying to self, actual living it is a whole different ballgame. (Gary)
Do you have trouble when I put the words close together?
KingPriest. Well I can easily write King Priest if that helps & not offends you. (me)
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Sometimes apologies get lost in the general conversations. Hope that is helpful Sage to show my heart motivation more.
God bless, Marilyn.
Marilyn C
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