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From the Tomax site
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description: Interesting. This is a recent entry from someone named ‘Ned’ over at the tomax web site, www.tomax7.com/thoughts/faith_assembly.htm I’m sure a few of you already know of this web site. It’s run by a very sincere brother in the Lord that uses part of his website to try to contact ex-Faith Assembly folks. Here’s is a testimony from one of his guests on his website. Feb 2006 - Greetings, I have a somewhat different perspective and would like to ask for feedback to help me settle some nagging questions. I was in the walk for 15 years and taught on Sundays for 7 years in my satellite church in Illinois. I have been out for 15 years now and find myself intrigued and identifying with what I read here. I also have run the gamut of emotions ranging from self pity to anger about what happened. I believe I see a simple answer that describes what happened at FA and at the satellite churches. Though not completely. Satisfying this answer allows me to cope well with our/my failures. This is simple in concept but extremely crucifying to self for us even to consider. My idea respects that most of the teachings were very good, that Christianity is defined by only the Scriptures, and that most of our hearts were good and acceptable before God... after all how much more sincere can you be if you are willing to go to and through death's door? Premise to consider -> << That we had little or no anointing but we did not notice. >> In other words - it did not work from God's side not from our side. Did we have an anointing or not? What if what "anointing" we did see in our churches actually came from sincere people trying their best ... and not from God? Signs and wonders should happen once in a while - maybe fairly often in an anointed church. All we ever saw were things that might have come from sincere, well meaning men or women. Tongues could possibly come from the human mind as could the prophecies. Pastoral compassion and care could originate in the caring heart of nice men. Teaching…
date: 2006-02-28T15:49:35-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hombre, I hope you don't think what I posted are my sentiments. I was just posting another opinion for discussion and I thought it was interesting. You understand?
date: 2006-02-28T17:23:15-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: It's sort of ironic but I heard from an old FA brother today. I found out he was working as a county supervisor over in Ohio from my Dad telling me this last Sunday. I sent him an email. He called me back and it was like old times. We talked on the phone for over an hour. I mostly let him relate to me his experience after the breakup of FA. He has a lot of scars. He lost a newborn back in the early 80’s and he was kind of ostracized because of whisperings that his baby died due to unconfessed sin in his life. That devastated him and his wife. I want you all to know for the record that this man was my best friend. We knew more about each other than our wives did. We sort of went through similar experiences together and our wives were best friends too. In my humble opinion if this man had unconfessed sin it would have been mine not his. At either rate to this day he is having trouble finding an assembly to join in and fellowship with. He told me that he is starting to go to this one place but it’s sort of like sticking your big toe into the bathtub…you know to make sure it isn’t too hot. Anyway he’s trying , after 20+ years. I say this to impress upon all of you, when you read the post above from the man named Ned, you might want to give him some slack. I sure will.
date: 2006-02-28T17:40:31-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hombre, Well to tell you a little something about me. I am closing in on 50, in just a few months. I have 6 kids. All of them grown up expect for one. She is 12 going on 17, and sometimes a pain in my rear. The word ‘sometimes’ is a bit understated. I have 6 grandkids and recently found out that I have 2 more grandchildren on the way. I’m working on a baseball team. I have been fortunate. All of my Children have had no serious medical problems. Like you I helped deliver two of them at home. The midwife let me cut the umbilical cord on my third child. Man, what an experience. With that being said, I can't imagine the struggles you have been through. I for one haven't had the similar experiences that you had. Thank you for sharing what you did. I appreciate your trials and struggles more since you have shared a little of your life with me. Rest assured I’ll never be your adversary.
date: 2006-02-28T18:26:31-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hombre / Rueben, I just finished reading Ned's post on Tomax before checking in with ya'll. Ironically, that post was the subject of discussion over here. I will have to be honest with you that his thoughts have crossed my mind on occasion. It's one of those thoughts that I hate to even entertain, but it makes a tiny bit of sense to me. I do not totally agree with him that there was no annointing, but could it be that the annointing left at some point? People tend to talk about the "glory years" at the Glory Barn. Did FA have something then that they lost in the early and mid-80s? Have any of you personally witnessed a supernatural event related to FA? I have heard of all the stories about limbs growing, people hacking up a cancer ball, blind people regaining their sight and deaf people hearing. When I hear these things it is always second, third or fourth hand. I do not know anyone who has personally witnessed a supernatural sign. Please don't misunderstand me. I do believe they can happen. The closest thing to supernatural that I have witnessed was a man at FA who started freaking out during one of Dr. Freeman's sermons. I was probably 10 years old, and he was a tall, dark-haired man that was sitting in the fourth or fifth-row center aisle seat. I can see it as clear as if it happened yesterday. He started screaming and convulsing right in the middle of the sermon. I'm not sure, but I think the sermon was on recognizing Satan. People started praying over the guy, and he calmed down after about 5 or 10 minutes. Just some thoughts. Duncan
creator: Duncan
date: 2006-02-28T22:31:01-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Duncan said’, “Have any of you personally witnessed a supernatural event related to FA? I have heard of all the stories about limbs growing, people hacking up a cancer ball, blind people regaining their sight and deaf people hearing. When I hear these things it is always second, third or fourth hand. I do not know anyone who has personally witnessed a supernatural sign.” Ugh, ‘hacking up a cancer ball’. Glad I wasn’t around to see that if it happened. Its bad enough I have two cats that hack up fur balls. They leave them in the most conspicuous spots. Usually in the hallway where my bear feet find them in the morning on the way to the kitchen to make coffee. (My wife is a Cat fan) Lucky for my Wife that I love her or the cats would be coyote food. As for 'supernatural manifestations’, no. That is if I understand what you mean by ‘supernatural manifestations’…well I have to say I never saw any either. Now I don’t want anyone to take that to mean that I don’t believe that none occurred…ok? I heard various testimony's of personal healing like 'I was sick or I had a toothache' and such, but I never saw anything big in the sense of well you know BIG.
date: 2006-02-28T23:07:32-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Ned wrote: Quote: I believe I see a simple answer that describes what happened at FA and at the satellite churches. I think everyone wants a simple answer (myself included), but is this a realistic expectation given the diversity of people from all walks of life, many giving up everything to move to FA? It's probably in our nature to want everything (the explanation) in a neat little box, but I don't know how we can expect to have it that way unless we do as some and say FA was completely bad, or the other camp who says it was completely good. That is simple. I suspect that most of us find ourselves somewhere between the extremes --which makes it all the more difficult to have a "one size fits all" answer. So I will give the guy points for his attempt, but I think he is pretty far from the truth. He says: Quote: My idea respects that most of the teachings were very good, that Christianity is defined by only the Scriptures, If this is true (which it is in my view) and we chose to believe these "very good" teachings, then why was the "anointing" missing (quoting him here -- 'cause I don't think the anointing was missing!) If it is true: Quote: 2Ch 16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of [them] whose heart [is] perfect toward him. Then why would not the Lord's anointing be present? I submit that it was present. Ok, he continues: Quote: All we ever saw were things that might have come from sincere, well meaning men or women. Tongues could possibly come from the human mind as could the prophecies. Pastoral compassion and care could originate in the caring heart of nice men. Teaching could come from the sincere intellect of honest men who simply take the Scriptures at face value. Tongues, prophecies, compassion, care, teaching, all this coming from taking the Scriptures at face value?? (We're supposed to take Scriptures at face value!) With his reasoning ANY sign or wonder can be explained away. Sure…
creator: william
date: 2006-03-01T00:42:49-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Preach on Brother! Quote: And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets...
creator: william
date: 2006-03-01T01:47:09-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Most enlightening. I figured by posting this I would open up a can of worms. I sincerely hope that I offended no one. But since this forum has been disposed to us, I hope that no one will take offence if I occasionally offer up alternate view points for the sake of discussion. What makes me smile is that we can discuss these things without going into invective like what you see over at factnet.
date: 2006-03-01T02:30:43-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hey Rueben, don't think like that. I'm so glad you did post it. I think we are all adults here and no one should feel like they are walking on egg shells! As long as things don't degenerate into personal attacks I'm open to the good, bad and ugly! William
creator: william
date: 2006-03-01T02:42:23-00:00

Watershed Events
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description: Hi Duncan, You said: Quote: It's one of those thoughts that I hate to even entertain, but it makes a tiny bit of sense to me. I do not totally agree with him that there was no anointing, but could it be that the anointing left at some point? People tend to talk about the "glory years" at the Glory Barn. Did FA have something then that they lost in the early and mid-80s? I've heard others say this... I'd be interested to know if you or any one else could cite an example of what event/teaching might have started this trend. I think all of the books and tracts had been written prior to the biblical theology series with maybe the exception of the compilation of the biblical theology series into book form. As I recall there were a few "watershed" events that possibly could be considered as examples of a change in the anointing. Biblical Theology OT Theology/Poetic Literature Galatians (I believe this was during the tent days) Test for Overcomers Deeper Deliverance and Discernment (toward the end as I recall) It's Never too Late--Until it's too Late (Admonitions for Endurance Series) End-Time Admonitions (The Bottom Line) Numbering Our Days (If I'm not mistaken these last three were close in time and toward the end and were accompanied with somewhat of a revival.) Comfort for Troubled Times (I think this was the last series, but I'm not sure.) These are just a few that stood out in my mind as more or less "watershed" type of messages. I'm sure I don't have them listed in chronological order (although this is kind of the way I remembered them). Thoughts? William
creator: william
date: 2006-03-02T16:10:15-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hi everyone, I'm a bit confused. I wonder if you, William, or anyone else, could clarify what you mean by "a change in the anointing" and how did it change? I would appreciate response from anyone. Afterall, I am an outsider looking in, benefitting from the tapes and not being there in person. God bless and thanks
creator: mark1124
date: 2006-03-02T23:52:52-00:00

Change in anointing...
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description: Hi Mark, You said: Quote: I'm a bit confused. I wonder if you, William, or anyone else, could clarify what you mean by "a change in the anointing" and how did it change? To be honest I'm not sure, but I'm willing to entertain the idea because I've heard it over and over. Brother Freeman himself said that there were those who had made that claim after the Galatians series. At the time I didn't pay attention to any critical remarks, but I'm at the place in my life (and secure in what I do believe), that I'm willing to stand back and look at the situation objectively if someone makes a valid claim. To use a cliche, I couldn't see the forest for the trees while I was at FA, but if someone can show me an example, I'm at least willing to look at it. I've always attributed the bad things that happened to our own shortcomings and not to the teaching we received. Oh, I'm aware that Brother Freeman had his shortcomings as well, and would no doubt do some things differently--but the Bible teaching? At this point in my life, I believe I could separate the stuff that was Bible teaching and the teachings that merely reflected his opinion and/or background, but not then. William
creator: william
date: 2006-03-03T00:56:53-00:00

Re: Change in anointing...
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description: Quote: I'll amen that first point, and the second point...uhmmmmm...well.....it's easy to discern that he had a love for ham radio, and homebaked bread, but when it comes to theology issues, I still haven't found anywhere that he was off. Ok, let me try to be more clear. Here are the doctrinal issues: >>>Theology (Biblical,OT,NT). >>>Deeper Life/Crucified Life. >>>Christian Ethics. >>>Body Ministry. >>>Faith (for healing and everything else) Would you not agree that these areas were the heart of what brother Freeman taught? I have no problem with the teaching in these areas because they all have a biblical base. I would however admit that in teaching these scriptural truths there were times where he would interject his own opinions (which we of course took to be the Word of God) and this is what I mean when I admitted the *possibility* that there *could* have been a change in the anointing. (I didn't say there was.) Some examples (loose paraphrases that I'll stand corrected if the archivists produce the tape!) >>>You leave Faith Assembly and I don't give you any hope<<< Why, because it was assumed you were leaving because the word was too strong... even though there could have been a host of reasons one would leave Faith Assembly (I can't think of any right now.<g>) >>>To continue to wear glasses after claiming your healing is not faith<<< That is why no one wore glasses--not because they were healed (some of course were healed) but because they couldn't stand the stigma of being viewed as having no faith for healing. Many could not drive because they would not put on their glasses to get their drivers license. You didn't last long at Faith Assembly if you wore glasses... >>>You ought to be beyond calling for the elders of the church if you need healing<<< Well... maybe, but many weren't and they didn't call for the elders when they should have--because of the stigma of being viewed as weak in the faith. This of course is an example where he was right (our faith in …
creator: william
date: 2006-03-07T04:20:10-00:00

Re: Change in anointing...
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description: Well I guess you can count me in as one of those “NAMBY PAMBY MILKTOAST CHRISTIANS”, Hombre. Deeper Life, Faith, Overcomers, Signs and Wonders, Prophesy. What did all this accomplish us or others? Not really anything of importance. We’re reduced to a fragmented few that get together to talk about the old days nostalgically. I for one am glad it’s over. I still love Brother Freeman very much but unlike some of you I don’t revere him anymore. He was gifted but seriously flawed as well. F/A was a closed group that didn’t do anything for our Lord or for his witness on the earth. You’re put here to make a difference. You know parable of the talents? We’re just not supposed to stick our heads in the sand and wait for the rapture. Our Lord wants us to perform the great commission. Our Lord wants us to be salt, light, hope and help to others. What did we do at F/A? Not much but makes ourselves feel better because we had all the truth. Yea right. Hombre, you seem to disparage other groups or Churches that reach out into the community. Why? My church does this very same thing. We go into jails and hospitals to pray and visit the sick. The blind have their own special time of the week where they can get together for encouragement and fellowship with the word. We reach out to the community. What’s so bad about that? Ok, and occaisonally we have a pancake supper to raise money. Reading your other posts I’ve noticed you don’t like order or organization. You use words like ‘uncompromising word’. I’m afraid you just don’t get it. Oh, and I think you’re missing the smorgasbord. It’s right before your eyes. We were so caught up wanting the next ‘deeper’ life truth we didn’t see the deeper truth in front of us. You know, I saw more general concern for my fellow man from Baptists and Catholics than I saw from us in the end. May God forgive us. We were too interested in the next tidbit of deeper revelation. That’s why Charismatic and Pentecostals get themselves into so much trouble. The…
date: 2006-03-21T00:26:34-00:00

Re: Change in anointing...
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description: Maybe we ought to define what faith really is. I think some people in the faith movement don’t see their faith in the Son of God, Jesus Christ, meaning trust in HIM and HIS will. No, it’s in a faith force or a promise they proclaim the Bible says apply’s to them. They talk about putting their trust in my Lord but it really isn’t. I call it Faith in a Box. Hombre, you wrote; “It is very easy to go to church, lift your hands, get some Goosebumps and be happy. It is quite another to wrestle with these other concepts.” Brother that’s a straw-man argument and a cop out. You simply see yourself as superior to other Christians and you won’t open yourself up to obvious immutable truths. You talk about a goal to go somewhere. Where do you want to go? Have you reached the point in your life where you love your neighbor as yourself? Have you reached the point where you love the Lord your God with your whole mind and whole soul? I don't think so, but then again I haven't either. Your posts indicate that you have unanswered questions inside and you seem a bit tortured. What did Christ teach us about the whole of the commandments? That’s where you and I need to go and that’s what was lacking with us and our friends at Faith Assembly. If I get some part of what you guys call the ‘faith’ message wrong, I really won’t lose a lot of sleep over it anymore. I’d rather show, practice, pray for and preach the love of Christ which has transformed more lives through grace than anyone who preaches you can throw your eye glasses away if you have faith. I’m 50 years old now and I’ve seen both disciplines in practice. Oh, and don’t give me that I don’t want the ‘meat’ of the word either. Been there done that. The meat of the word is something that transcends what some think it is. I’m into the word every day and still somehow I don’t think Brother Freeman is infallible. Rest assured, I believe in the whole consol of the Word of God. It’s not all love and kisses. Our Lord expects us to live rig…
date: 2006-03-21T03:51:30-00:00

Re: Change in anointing...
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description: Quote: Deeper Life, Faith, Overcomers, Signs and Wonders, Prophesy. What did all this accomplish us or others? Not really anything of importance. I've tried to enumerate some of what the word of God has "accomplished" in my life and the lives of my family. I could spend days and days on end describing much more but I would no doubt sound like a braggart. Of course I can only "brag" in the Lord, because EVERYTHING I am, I owe to Jesus and His word. Furthermore, EVERYTHING GOOD in my life came as a result of the foundational truths taught to me at Faith Assembly. Since I've already revealed myself as a foolish braggart, let me continue a bit. (I promise to get back up on the cross and attempt once more to die to this old self nature that is even now climbing down off of the cross!) The blessings, that were a direct result of my years at Faith Assembly, go beyond the bounds of my family. The Lord used me as an instrument in baptizing others into the blessing of the Holy Spirit. I speak as a foolish one here, but since I've started I'll continue to brag a bit... I have been privileged to teach His word (that I learned from Faith Assembly) to a group of alcoholics and drug addicts. There were results and fruit from this time of ministry (again, only because of what I received at Faith Assembly) and there was at least one notable case of demonic deliverance that occurred during this period. Now whether or not this will be considered as "anything of importance" in the light of eternity remains to be seen, but it sure seemed important at the time... at least as important as the pancake supper you mentioned! <grin> Quote: We’re reduced to a fragmented few that get together to talk about the old days nostalgically. I for one am glad it’s over. I still love Brother Freeman very much but unlike some of you I don’t revere him anymore. He was gifted but seriously flawed as well. As Hombre said: Quote: Sure...Hobart was a man. Can you forgive him for that? And because men are flaw…
creator: william
date: 2006-03-21T07:00:48-00:00

Re: Change in anointing...
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description: Ok, I thought about editing my message after re-reading it... but doesn't your cross have steps on it too? (Mine came with an escalator installed!) William
creator: william
date: 2006-03-21T07:16:40-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: I believe Reuben has struck a nerve with Hombre. I for one am in agreement with Reuben on this one. For a number of reasons which I'm sure that Hombre will lambast but I couldn't just sit back and watch any longer. 1. If you've prayed for something 999 and you don't receive until the 1,000th time, the first 999 were in unbelief. I don't think so, maybe it wasn't God's will or timing for you to receive it until the 1,000 time. 2. Name it and claim it, again what you're claiming may not be God's will for your life. If I claim a new Porsche and I have a need for a Mini-Van because I have 4 kids, God isn't going to have a Porsche show up on my doorstep just because I claimed it. I believe the scripture, but not everything you request in a prayer God grants, period. You can name and claim all you want, but that doesn't mean that what you are naming and claiming is what God has planned for you. 3. While I agree with Hombre in that most churches today don't teach 1/10 of what was taught at FA and they are weak, I also believe that FA did more damage as far as bringing the message to the world than it did good. My Grandfather is a lot like Hombre, very grounded in the word, but has turned more potential Christians away with his attitude than he has turned towards Christ. 4. Not everything Dr. Freeman taught was scriptural I will list a few and the problems that it caused. Not sending your kids to college-you had a whole generation of kids whose parents raised them that they weren't going to college had done no college planning and therefore kids like myself ended up with thousands of dollars in debt to graduate college. Let's face it the days of having a good job without a degree for the most part are gone. My parents realized the errors of the way after a number of kids so my siblings haven't had the struggle that the older ones did. Not associating with the outside world. How are you supposed to witness if you can't associate with the outside world? My interpretation is t…
creator: cougarxr72
date: 2006-03-21T12:35:16-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Quote: I believe Reuben has struck a nerve with Hombre. I for one am in agreement with Reuben on this one. For a number of reasons which I'm sure that Hombre will lambast but I couldn't just sit back and watch any longer. It amazes me how differently we perceive things. Firstly, from my perspective, I don't see Hombre lambasting anyone personally. He gives a pretty good rant against "the system" and I presume that one might take it personally if they were in "the system" but he simply is calling it like he sees it. It seems as if the nerve that was struck was in Reuben not the other way around... but again, that is only from my perspective. Quote: 1. If you've prayed for something 999 and you don't receive until the 1,000th time, the first 999 were in unbelief. I don't think so, maybe it wasn't God's will or timing for you to receive it until the 1,000 time. If you've prayed for something 999 times and you actually receive something on the thousand time (assuming that you didn't change anything on your end) whatever you got didn't come from God. Quote: 2. Name it and claim it, again what you're claiming may not be God's will for your life. If I claim a new Porsche and I have a need for a Mini-Van because I have 4 kids, God isn't going to have a Porsche show up on my doorstep just because I claimed it. I believe the scripture, but not everything you request in a prayer God grants, period. You can name and claim all you want, but that doesn't mean that what you are naming and claiming is what God has planned for you. Especially if you are in the middle (say around 680) of the aforementioned prayers. God gives us what we ask for---if we are meeting the conditions (I've heard that a few times!) God tells us that He gives us the desires of OUR hearts. He doesn't say that He will give us a stone when we ask for bread. Since He is God He could have easily left out Mk.11:24 and stated something more along the lines of your statement. Quote: My Grandfather is a lot like Homb…
creator: william
date: 2006-03-21T16:04:41-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Thanks for the response Hombre. Where I'm coming from and many of the younger generation is coming from is this. First of all I'll make this clear, scripturally FA was very sound and the teaching there in regards to the Bible was top notch. So I don't disagree with you there. Even as a child I gained a great deal of knowledge from attending there. FA was the only encounter with Christianity that many of us had and it wasn't by choice. This is one area in which I am in agreement with Healed on as kids we didn't have a choice. As adults if they chose to follow every jot and tittle that was their choice. As kids we didn't have a choice. Now I'm not saying that I had a bad childhood or my parents were awful, that's not the point. The point is that much of the teachings/opinions/legalism of the church we were raised under and that was all we knew. By the time we grew up the church was dissolved and we were like I said before somewhat left to the wolves of the world. I still believe in God, but where I stand on Christianity is unclear. My fear as is many other kids that grew up in FA that we don't want to go back to that environment. It's not that we can't handle the word or the message but rather all the legalism, the deaths, needless suffering etc. The other issue that many of us struggle with was the lack of compassion in the church. When my brother died I distinctly remember hearing other FA members saying "well you weren't in the word enough or something in your walk must not have lined up with the message, this is why he died", we received more compassion and generosity from non christian friends and clients and traditional denominational people than we did from fellow church members. The loss of a child is a tragic thing regardless of what your faith is and one would think that these so called Christians could have put aside the elitist mentalities for a few days while a family grieves. I've read countless stories of where when someone died, other church members wo…
creator: cougarxr72
date: 2006-03-22T13:16:51-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hello, All. I have been up to my eyeballs in alligators at work, so I haven't had a chance to post in a while. Fortunately, I received final approval from management to hire someone. My newest employee should start on April 3. As for the board, I have been monitoring it, and I appreciate everyone's openness and the spirit in which they have posted. It is very refreshing to see this dialogue. Here's my two cents worth of comments: 1) I agree with Hombre that Repetitious prayer is not needed. God knows what we need before we ask him. Prayer is just putting feet to our faith. The key word above is NEED. Many times we ask for what we want, but it is not always what God wants for us. Paul prayed 3 times for God to remove his thorn. God knew that Paul needed this thorn in order to totally rely on Him. Sometimes, God’s answer to us is “No.” It is up to us to be discerning enough to hear it when he says it. 2) On the heels of this comment, I will say that we are only looking at one small piece of God’s vast puzzle. We don’t always know what the big picture is going to turn out to be. As such, we pray for what we think we need, based on our limited knowledge. I am very careful in my prayer life to seek God’s will. I agree with Cougar regarding the “name it and claim it” crowd. God is not some Santa Claus in the sky that we can go sit on his knee and tell him about all the goodies we want. There were many folks in this camp at FA who would pray for the Cadillac or the designer clothes. Unfortunately, there wasn’t much said to discourage this train of thought. 3) Let me throw this little curveball out to the group for discussion. As a caveat, let me first say that I neither agree nor disagree with what I am about to write. Rather, I would like your thoughts. Here it goes: If you believe that God predestined everything to occur from the foundation of the world, can anything technically happen that is not in God’s will? In other words, was it God’s will for children to die at FA…
creator: Duncan
date: 2006-03-22T14:41:11-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: A hundred and fifty stations??
creator: william
date: 2006-03-23T05:58:30-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Mister, What have you done with our Hombre?? I know you can't be the original Hombre, because your post was only 10 lines long. Please return him unharmed, and we will give you what you want! Duncan
creator: Duncan
date: 2006-03-23T15:48:18-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Yes, I'm worried too. Did you notice there was no mention of those cookie-cutting Kool-aid drinkers?
creator: william
date: 2006-03-23T15:56:43-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: OK, OK. I guess you are the real Hombre. Anytime I read your posts I need to keep a dictionary/thesaurus handy. Nice use of the word, "Mizzenmast." By the way, someone tell me how you are able to highlight a section of someone else's post and include it into your own. I haven't been able to figure that one out. Duncan ps - It is a gorgeous day here in the sunny south. A bit cool, but still gorgeous. Mulder, I guess you know that too.
creator: Duncan
date: 2006-03-23T16:44:55-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Yep, a little cool here but the sun looks as if it will warm things up soon. You can quote the whole note by hitting "quote" instead of "reply" and edit out what you don't want included. But if you just want to quote portions of another note, you can copy the portion of the note you want (just scroll down and get whatever you want) and then click on the "QUOTE /QUOTE" icon directly above the response area (it is the 12 button over from the left) and then paste your quote in between the "quote" "/quote" marks. Quote: Like this! I suppose you could just type it in... here I'll try it: Quote: an example Did it work? William
creator: william
date: 2006-03-23T17:00:05-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: moulder wrote on Thu, 23 March 2006 11:00 Yep, a little cool here but the sun looks as if it will warm things up soon. You can quote the whole note by hitting "quote" instead of "reply" and edit out what you don't want included. That seems easy enough. Thanks for the instructions.
creator: Duncan
date: 2006-03-23T17:09:54-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hey great to see the discussion from my site here. Didn't know there were others 'out there' talking about Overcomers and Faith Assembly. I have to agree with Anon's posting about what is the fruit of the movement, we're scattered little groups talking about the "good ol' days". Our problem was we didn't "go out" but "stayed within". God had to break up FA just because of that - we were becoming a cult in all intensive means and methods. Will we ever have another Brother Freeman? Dunno. I recall recantly hearing within myself Amos 8:11-13... “The days are coming,” declares the Sovereign LORD, “when I will send a famine through the land — not a famine of food or a thirst for water, but a famine of hearing the words of the Lord. [12] Men will stagger from sea to sea and wander from north to east, searching for the word of the LORD, but they will not find it. [13] In that day the lovely young women and strong young men will faint because of thirst..." I think we are in those days now. cheers Tom tom@tomax7.com Remember to smile, God loves you!
creator: tomax7
date: 2006-08-19T17:35:24-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: Hey Tomax! It's certainly great that you stopped in! I really like the outlet that your site has provided for people. I wonder if we ever met during any of your trips to FA... There hasn't been much going on here the last few weeks, I know that I've been extremely busy and I assume everyone else has as well. At any rate, I see that you've jumped in to some of the threads, your thoughts and experiences are welcome! You probably know most of the group that have posted here from reading over on the factnet site (assuming you have). I read your note on the End-time thread and I agree with you... God still has His plan in place and it is refreshing to think/hope it is right around the corner! William
creator: william
date: 2006-08-20T01:46:54-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: hey Bill Just stopped in, sorry I should visit more, I apologize. Where's all the postings, I see a lot from 2006, but not much this year, 2007. cheers tom
creator: tomax7
date: 2007-07-30T18:45:06-00:00

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description: Silly me, I was looking at the dates besides people's pictures, when they signed up, the posting dates are at the top right.
creator: tomax7
date: 2007-07-30T19:24:09-00:00

Re: From the Tomax site
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description: I was reading these posts and with the very first one things started to stir. If one looks at recent history of the church through the 20th century. Azusa Str. Signs and wonders in the 50’ & 60’s. Then the concentration on the need for teaching of The Word. This was The Faith Message coming forth. The anointing came from the Word and didn’t require the signs and Wonders. They had preceded it. Were there signs and wonders? YES as I’m sure many can testify to as well as myself. Maybe not on the scale some might have preconceived notions of, never the less they did happen. God has confirmed time and again of him working and moving to the fulfillment of His Word. It’s not in the time frame we might desire. It is happening and he will complete the work he has begun. As Hombre posted. ' Thomas,...because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.' ~ John 20:29 Red Letter Words. Those words – Have not seen, and yet believe. The grandeur signs and wonders had already gone forth. The need at the time was on the Pure Word of God. Did signs and wonders happen? YES Did the anointing leave Faith Assembly? Possible Is God still working today? YES JRS
creator: JRS
date: 2007-12-31T21:24:05-00:00